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I think that's completely the other way round. It's a poor touch from Vernam no doubt but he's 40 yards from our goal. Normally if you lose possession there you still have your defence in the way to stop the opposition forwards. If Mullarkey had held his position until we actually had the ball under control then there shouldn't be an issue there but as it is Jones is through and in a great position. Make those runs if you're certain its highly unlikely we'll lose possession but in transition phases like this with the ball bouncing about between the midfield and back four and not under our control yet it's beyond stupid for a full back to leave the man you're marking clean through behind you because you've made an aimless run forward. DA mentioned in the post match interview about poor decision making and I'm sure this will have been one of the instances he was talking about. It's a particularly brain dead thing to do in the context of being 10 minutes before half time and up until this point absolutely cruising.
Completely disagree. I bet Mullarkey has instructions to get forward whenever he can, and he couldn't have known that Vernam would completely fail to control the ball, a basic requirement of a professional footballer. It's about moments, and Vernam got it wrong, exposing the full back. If Vernam had have brought that down and we worked it to Mullarkey for an attack, we may have gone up the other end and made it 3-0, but of course we will never know. Attacking football with full backs looking to get on the front foot will have risks attached. |
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Both. It's a really minor issue at worst and for all the unbelievable work he does off the ball and with the ball it's perplexing to label him as a negative when there are other more glaring issues elsewhere in the side.
Both? You questioning the fact Rose loses the ball, falls to the ground and the ref plays on. Meanwhile rose spends time waving his arms for anybody who wants to watch, his teammates don't care because they know better. Now tell me that never ever happens to Rose. Go on tell me that. |
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You questioning the fact Rose loses the ball, falls to the ground and the ref plays on. Meanwhile rose spends time waving his arms for anybody who wants to watch, his teammates don't care because they know better. Now tell me that never ever happens to Rose. Go on tell me that.
Yeah he goes down a bit too easily sometimes trying to win free kicks. But it’s not such a regular occurrence that it’s an issue and pales into insignificance in comparison to the many, many positives he brings the side. You literally labelled Rose as a negative in your original post which is absurd. |
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The logic is: I think he'd do a better job at RB than Mullarkey or Efete.
We've just seen 4 goals conceded from that side of the pitch - so doing nothing isn't an appealing option. But who else?
Playing Harry in defence doesn't prohibit him from setting foot in the opponent's half.
Some would see playing a midfielder (who's played left-back on several occasions, don't forget) at full-back as being "attack minded".
Harry's passing is too hit-and-miss for the midfield role.
Hang on, was it not Clifton who let Jody put in the cross for the forth goal……… |
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I don't blame Vernam for their first goal at all. He was running back to try and help the defence, stretched to get his foot on an awkward ball and it deflected backwards. Could have happened to anyone. I thought it was unlucky as much as anything, as it could have gone almost anywhere else on the pitch and not caused too many problems, but it just happened to fall to Jones who turned out to be in the right place as the right time. Mullarkey a bit foolish to pile upfield before he saw where it was going, but more bad luck than anything for me.
The next three were just rubbish play by the defenders and then the keeper.
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It looked a difficult ball to control, and Mullarkey deciding to push on was naïve. If the ball into Vernam was excellent, then it's a slightly different debate and Mullarkey pushing becomes a bit more understood. It's all about finding that balance and making better decisions to see games out.
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Hang on, was it not Clifton who let Jody put in the cross for the forth goal………
Yep just checked it, and it was Clifton. At the time I shouted out just kick him into the stand!! I don’t think it’s fair to lay the blame solely at Mularkey as a lot are doing, Vernam could be held culpable for the first goal. I’m sure that what ever happens Artell will address the problem as best he can with the players we have. What a game!!! |
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Hang on, was it not Clifton who let Jody put in the cross for the forth goal………
Yes, Clifton was the nearest player to Jody when he put the cross in - but he was running back from midfield and was never in a position to cut out the cross, so unfair to say he "let Jody in". Would have been better if Mullarkey was in Jody's face when he received the pass (Jody having assisted the previous 3 goals we'd conceded). |
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Without checking, I think the Fulham match to which you refer, was midweek afternoon.
Hi CL. I've managed to look up the actual date. Saturday 9 Jan 1954 Grief, virtually 70 years to the day. And I can't remember who scored last week !. |
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It looked a difficult ball to control, and Mullarkey deciding to push on was naïve. If the ball into Vernam was excellent, then it's a slightly different debate and Mullarkey pushing becomes a bit more understood. It's all about finding that balance and making better decisions to see games out.
For me you've hit the nail on the head with making better decisions. Vernam's 'interception' puts the ball back into an area where the County player is favourite to get it and wrong foots 2 of our players (and in space). All the impetus is then with County and effectively takes 3 of our players out of the picture. If Vernam had decided he wasn't going to get to it and get it under control he could have prepared himself for when it bounced and what challenge he may have to make as a result. He could have just handballed it, given away the free kick but allowed us to get our defensive shape against a free kick in a not particularly dangerous area. But he didn't do either of those, he dived in. A poor decision based on where he was on the pitch. |
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