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Quoted from quebec38

I was a little disappointed with the lineup yesterday in all honesty. It felt like a backwards step dropping Green. It’s a no-brainer who is the better player out of Green and Conteh but results on the pitch aren’t backing it up. I thought we should have stuck with him anchoring Holohan and Andrews.

Quoted from quebec38

I was a little disappointed with the lineup yesterday in all honesty. It felt like a backwards step dropping Green. It’s a no-brainer who is the better player out of Green and Conteh but results on the pitch aren’t backing it up. I thought we should have stuck with him anchoring Holohan and Andrews.

I was pleased to see Wilson start through the middle with Pyke wide where I think he’s been more effective. It quickly became evident though that Wilson needs a partner closer to him and I don’t think he can spearhead a three man attack in the way that Rose can, which is no criticism - it just doesn’t seem to be his game. Sutton had two up top and I was hoping to see S and B roll the dice and match them as the game went on but unfortunately it never happened.

Really disappointing after the Morecambe game.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

What gives you that impression?😄

I just feel it is a nonsense. Take today - look at the stats and you would get the wrong impression. We had far more possession and more shots on target. So what? What does it prove? Anybody at the game could see they were the better team; possession is immaterial as they don't play a possession based game but were better at what they do.

Football is too nuanced to be reduced to numbers, apart from the result and league table  which tells you all you need to know. Maybes, couldbes and nearlies don't count.

Player data is equally ridiculous. Our centre backs probably have the best completed pass stats because they keep passing it between each other. What's the point? I understand the footballing reasons for it but reduce that to data and it is irrelevant.

Then you  get the absolutely ludicrous stats that say don't worry about being 4th bottom of league 2, because some daft stats show that you had more throw ins in the final third, you had more corners or whatever. None of it matters.

My final point is ALL data is retrospective so has no bearing whatsoever on what happens in future games. The opposition is different,  the weather is different,  the tactics might be different,  the venue might be different,  the team might be different thereby altering the dynamics and ad infinitum.

It is a modern phenomenon which has embedded itself in the game but if we are to improve our season we need a manager who can set us up right, players who can be coached into a style of play they are comfortable with and drilled week in week out.

I'm in a minority of one, which I am comfortable with. Others have different views and talk about marginal gains and such and good luck to them if they believe it.

Quoted from 123614

So I absolutely believe in your right to your opinion, and I have one question for you.

If using stats is so bad, how come Premier League teams and other EFL teams are using them?

Quoted from quebec38

I was a little disappointed with the lineup yesterday in all honesty. It felt like a backwards step dropping Green. It’s a no-brainer who is the better player out of Green and Conteh but results on the pitch aren’t backing it up. I thought we should have stuck with him anchoring Holohan and Andrews.

I was pleased to see Wilson start through the middle with Pyke wide where I think he’s been more effective. It quickly became evident though that Wilson needs a partner closer to him and I don’t think he can spearhead a three man attack in the way that Rose can, which is no criticism - it just doesn’t seem to be his game. Sutton had two up top and I was hoping to see S and B roll the dice and match them as the game went on but unfortunately it never happened.

Really disappointing after the Morecambe game.

Quoted from 123614

So I absolutely believe in your right to your opinion, and I have one question for you.

If using stats is so bad, how come Premier League teams and other EFL teams are using them?