Next Town manager ?

Quoted from monkeyboy

Do you think if Neil Warnock offered his service they would take it? would you?

I think I’m demeaning my future self by even answering this.

Statistically, I’m almost 40 years from my death. I will always remember the last 20 seconds I’ve wasted.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

This argument is ridiculous because Michael Joly didn't work, it doesn't mean every young manager will be a failure.

We have been down every single "path" with choosing different managers, this doesn't automatically result in failure for those deemed to be in the same category.

Every individual should be judged on their own merit.

See, this is a hill I will die on; Michael Jolley did ok with the tools at his disposal. He inherited a dire situation from Slade, we hadn’t won in 15 games and had taken just 4 points in the process, kept us up and never really had us in any danger during his tenure, which is more than can be said for the likes of Newell, Slade, Holloway and even Hurst of years gone by. Bignot, too, was always an accident waiting to happen.

In my opinion if Jolley doesn’t get caught gobbing off, doesn’t get sacked and takes the reins during that Covid season, we don’t get relegated. Of course, that would mean we’d have missed out on that playoff campaign, but I can’t bring myself to lump him in with some of the absolute dross we’ve had in the dugout in the last couple of decades.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

This argument is ridiculous because Michael Joly didn't work, it doesn't mean every young manager will be a failure.

To say that Michael Jolley didn't work somewhat misses the issue, what was success when he came in?

He stopped us going down when even the most optimistic of us where probably resigned to it and put together a team, that whilst was not moving forward much I genuinely don't think would have been anywhere near going down. He blooded our own players, Clifton, Rose, Wright and Pollock. He was by no means the messiah, but on balance I think he succeeded in the job he was given when matched against the realistic expectations.

Quoted from Poojah

See, this is a hill I will die on; Michael Jolley did ok with the tools at his disposal. He inherited a dire situation from Slade, we hadn’t won in 15 games and had taken just 4 points in the process, kept us up and never really had us in any danger during his tenure, which is more than can be said for the likes of Newell, Slade, Holloway and even Hurst of years gone by. Bignot, too, was always an accident waiting to happen.

In my opinion if Jolley doesn’t get caught gobbing off, doesn’t get sacked and takes the reins during that Covid season, we don’t get relegated. Of course, that would mean we’d have missed out on that playoff campaign, but I can’t bring myself to lump him in with some of the absolute dross we’ve had in the dugout in the last couple of decades.

Good evening Michael! Bit early to be on the hard stuff isn’t it?

Quoted from Mikey_345

To say that Michael Jolley didn't work somewhat misses the issue, what was success when he came in?

He stopped us going down when even the most optimistic of us where probably resigned to it and put together a team, that whilst was not moving forward much I genuinely don't think would have been anywhere near going down. He blooded our own players, Clifton, Rose, Wright and Pollock. He was by no means the messiah, but on balance I think he succeeded in the job he was given when matched against the realistic expectations.

It didn't work because he got fired! I wasn't commenting on what constitutes success, but rather that a certain "type" of manager, e.g. young, inexperienced, hire within, experienced etc dictates how future managers will perform.

Quoted from Mikey_345

To say that Michael Jolley didn't work somewhat misses the issue, what was success when he came in?

He stopped us going down when even the most optimistic of us where probably resigned to it and put together a team, that whilst was not moving forward much I genuinely don't think would have been anywhere near going down. He blooded our own players, Clifton, Rose, Wright and Pollock. He was by no means the messiah, but on balance I think he succeeded in the job he was given when matched against the realistic expectations.

I'd totally agree that he did a great job when he came in and did really well to keep us up. Ironically, towards the end of that season was when we played our best stuff under Jolley with the home performance against Notts showing some really good football. However, I think people forget just how turgid and dire the football was before his mouth got him fired. It was useless, aimless long balls with no runners in behind. And a relatively toothless forward line of Hanson, Green, Cardwell and Akheem Rose. None of them have played in the FL since leaving us which is fairly damning. We also had Vernam but he was fairly terrible until he was sent out on loan to Chorley.

We were dropping like a stone after an early season purple patch from Hanson had seen us start well. I don't think we'd have gone down because Macclesfield and Stevenage were so bad plus Bury going bust meant only one went down. But everyone generally remembers Limbrick seeing a fairly big upturn in performances despite losing virtually all the games he was in charge of yet nobody seems to remember that this was because we were so bad under Jolley from around September onwards. The only good game in that period was the fantastic win away at Exeter where we were actually very good but that's because we totally changed the line up by dropping Green and Hanson and had balls in to Ogbu's feet with runners off him in the form of Rose, Wright, Cook and Robson. Yet he reverted back to the same shite long ball the very next game. He didn't fail as such because virtually nobody could do well under Fenty but he certainly wasn't a good manager.

Quoted from mariner91

I'd totally agree that he did a great job when he came in and did really well to keep us up. Ironically, towards the end of that season was when we played our best stuff under Jolley with the home performance against Notts showing some really good football. However, I think people forget just how turgid and dire the football was before his mouth got him fired. It was useless, aimless long balls with no runners in behind. And a relatively toothless forward line of Hanson, Green, Cardwell and Akheem Rose. None of them have played in the FL since leaving us which is fairly damning. We also had Vernam but he was fairly terrible until he was sent out on loan to Chorley.

We were dropping like a stone after an early season purple patch from Hanson had seen us start well. I don't think we'd have gone down because Macclesfield and Stevenage were so bad plus Bury going bust meant only one went down. But everyone generally remembers Limbrick seeing a fairly big upturn in performances despite losing virtually all the games he was in charge of yet nobody seems to remember that this was because we were so bad under Jolley from around September onwards. The only good game in that period was the fantastic win away at Exeter where we were actually very good but that's because we totally changed the line up by dropping Green and Hanson and had balls in to Ogbu's feet with runners off him in the form of Rose, Wright, Cook and Robson. Yet he reverted back to the same shite long ball the very next game. He didn't fail as such because virtually nobody could do well under Fenty but he certainly wasn't a good manager.

This is much more how I remember it too!

Quoted from mariner91

I'd totally agree that he did a great job when he came in and did really well to keep us up. Ironically, towards the end of that season was when we played our best stuff under Jolley with the home performance against Notts showing some really good football. However, I think people forget just how turgid and dire the football was before his mouth got him fired. It was useless, aimless long balls with no runners in behind. And a relatively toothless forward line of Hanson, Green, Cardwell and Akheem Rose. None of them have played in the FL since leaving us which is fairly damning. We also had Vernam but he was fairly terrible until he was sent out on loan to Chorley.

We were dropping like a stone after an early season purple patch from Hanson had seen us start well. I don't think we'd have gone down because Macclesfield and Stevenage were so bad plus Bury going bust meant only one went down. But everyone generally remembers Limbrick seeing a fairly big upturn in performances despite losing virtually all the games he was in charge of yet nobody seems to remember that this was because we were so bad under Jolley from around September onwards. The only good game in that period was the fantastic win away at Exeter where we were actually very good but that's because we totally changed the line up by dropping Green and Hanson and had balls in to Ogbu's feet with runners off him in the form of Rose, Wright, Cook and Robson. Yet he reverted back to the same shite long ball the very next game. He didn't fail as such because virtually nobody could do well under Fenty but he certainly wasn't a good manager.

Totally this. Remember players being told to mark oppo players even when we had the ball! Also was the epitome of being more bothered by the opposition than us, chopped and changed us literally every week - that 11 that thrashed the league leaders never played together again. We really were incredibly dull under him before he got sacked. Barrow actually said one of the factors for sacking him was he said in his interview saying he would play attacking football and then did the opposite when employed.

His success was due to being a much better manager than Slade MK2, and getting a lot more out of the team he had put together, but he was still pretty poor. Corrected errors like playing Berrett and replaced him with clifton, got rose on to pens and long throws - basic stuff that was beyond Slade by then.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

It's much easier when the opportunity is effectively a free hit. We could have easily lost at Slough and were behind at half time to Morecambe. I'm delighted that we have won the last two games, don't get me wrong, but the job will become a lot more difficult if the job changes from 'caretaker' to 'permanent'.

Why .

Is anyone running a book as to when an appointment will be made, next week, next month, next year?