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One factor that is unspoken on here but presumambly is part of the owners decision making process at least in private is the cost of removing and replacing the manager and some at least of his back up team. I believe it’s been reported Hurst is on an 18months rolling contract. We can only guess what the others contract arrangements are. Then there are recruitment costs. Total cost guess £300k plus.. Anybody any better guesses?
Then there are the new players who a new manager will want and are unbudgeted and the cost of disposing of those trey don’t want.
Total must be £500k plus of in budgeted expenditure.
Is the money available ?
What impact does it have on other plans the club may have had and next seasons budget etc etc
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One factor that is unspoken on here but presumambly is part of the owners decision making process at least in private is the cost of removing and replacing the manager and some at least of his back up team. I believe it’s been reported Hurst is on an 18months rolling contract. We can only guess what the others contract arrangements are. Then there are recruitment costs. Total cost guess £300k plus.. Anybody any better guesses?
Then there are the new players who a new manager will want and are in budgeted and the cost of disposing of those trey don’t want.
Total must be £500k plus of in budgeted expenditure.
Is the money available ?
What impact does it have on other plans the club may have had and next seasons budget etc etc
Every club changes the manager so if we don't because of budget restrictions then it will be beyond disappointing, if they feel that would be the best thing to do. I've always got the impression they felt confident in Hurst because being an experienced manager they could just leave all the playing stuff in his competent hands whilst they got on with other things. I'm not sure what else they have been working on but the playing side, the coaching and manager is obviously the number one priority. Floating/new fans will only remain on board if they can see progress on the field regardless of anything else. |
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18-month rolling contract? You must be on fūcking crack. Who would ever hand out a contract where they’d have to pay up 18 months salary - to two employees - in the event the management needed sacking? That’s 3 years’ wages between the two.
What are these other recruitment costs? Advert on indeed.com & hire of a conference room for a day of interviews, maybe a tray of biscuits?
Granted they may end up having to have a chat with the bods at Insight 63, who helped with the initial takeover, but would be very surprised if that amounted to more than 5 figures.
Say you have to pay Hurst & Doig off, what’s that - £100k? If a new manager sticks 1000 on the gate 6 times in the remaining 15 home fixtures that pays for itself.
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18-month rolling contract? You must be on fūcking crack. Who would ever hand out a contract where they’d have to pay up 18 months salary - to two employees - in the event the management needed sacking? That’s 3 years’ wages between the two.
What are these other recruitment costs? Advert on indeed.com & hire of a conference room for a day of interviews, maybe a tray of biscuits?
Granted they may end up having to have a chat with the bods at Insight 63, who helped with the initial takeover, but would be very surprised if that amounted to more than 5 figures.
Say you have to pay Hurst & Doig off, what’s that - £100k? If a new manager sticks 1000 on the gate 6 times in the remaining 15 home fixtures that pays for itself.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.c.....contract-6309034.ampNo not crack just Jason and the Telewag |
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Twenty First Group was imposed upon Hurst but the next appointment will have them there from the outset and they'll be able to agree a data-based approach with suitable metrics and targets from the off.
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I think it's just the final 12 months that are rolling, so it will cost us 12 months salary to get rid. I seem to recall that he signed "improved terms" in the summer but I assume the rolling aspect is still retained. You can say bringing another manager in would be costly, but getting relegated again and not returning at the first time of asking would be far more costly. With a third of the season gone, I think it's safe to say that we currently find ourselves in a relegation scrap. |
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Hurst and Doig signed new contacts in September 2022 so anything in that article is out of date. Contract lengths are irrelevant anyway. There’s usually a maximum compensation clause these days. And possible performance related aspects to contractual compensation too. I’m sure Jason & Andrew will treat Paul & Chris with respect and fairness if/when their contracts are terminated. |
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Twenty First Group was imposed upon Hurst but the next appointment will have them there from the outset and they'll be able to agree a data-based approach with suitable metrics and targets from the off.
Let's hope he has got some football management experience in amongst the metrics! |
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One factor that is unspoken on here but presumambly is part of the owners decision making process at least in private is the cost of removing and replacing the manager and some at least of his back up team. I believe it’s been reported Hurst is on an 18months rolling contract. We can only guess what the others contract arrangements are. Then there are recruitment costs. Total cost guess £300k plus.. Anybody any better guesses?
Then there are the new players who a new manager will want and are in budgeted and the cost of disposing of those trey don’t want.
Total must be £500k plus of in budgeted expenditure.
Is the money available ?
What impact does it have on other plans the club may have had and next seasons budget etc etc
Cheaper than relegation |
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