Hurst In

Quoted from 123614

I wish someone would change the record, same old rubbish being spouted out every day. Forget last Saturday, it's gone, get behind the lads FFS!  UTM.

It's okay to say that but didn't we say something similar after Bradford, Wrexham, Crawley, Swindon, Barrow and Tranmere? Isn't it time the lads put up a show that we can be proud of for us to get behind them?

Quoted from 123614

I wish someone would change the record, same old rubbish being spouted out every day.  .

Irony at its best !!

UTM

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Can we blame the manager for the dull, unentertaining performances that have made home games a chore?

No.

Quoted from ancientmariner54

No.

Well, who do we blame, the bleeding kit man FFS!!..

He will be gone after Saturdays inevitable defeat

Quoted from sydney

He will be gone after Saturdays inevitable defeat

Seems a bit pointless to sack him after an inevitable defeat (and I don’t disagree about its apparent inevitability). You either part ways before or allow an additional game (at least).

Provided Saturday doesn’t see a complete meltdown; 6+ goals conceded, players scrapping on the pitch, manager sent off for getting his nob out, that sort of thing, he’ll be in the dugout for the Colchester game. That’s the game truly toxic potential, if you ask me. That said, Hurst does have a habit of pulling something out of the bag just before things turn properly nasty.

Quoted from Poojah

Seems a bit pointless to sack him after an inevitable defeat (and I don’t disagree about its apparent inevitability). You either part ways before or allow an additional game (at least).

Provided Saturday doesn’t see a complete meltdown; 6+ goals conceded, players scrapping on the pitch, manager sent off for getting his nob out, that sort of thing, he’ll be in the dugout for the Colchester game. That’s the game truly toxic potential, if you ask me. That said, Hurst does have a habit of pulling something out of the bag just before things turn properly nasty.

I certainly don’t think he would be sacked between a Saturday and a Tuesday game but I hope that the next three games are able to define a path forward one way or another.

Quoted from Azimuth

The manager is responsible for the recruitment,motivation, tactics, team selection and training!

Maybe so but surely he can't be held responsible for every miss placed pass, poor judgement in positioning or failure to track a runner. Players can have a great game but make one miss placed pass that leads to a goal. Most of the players we have are playing at this level because they are prone to inconsistences. Obviously the ultimate responsibility lies with the manager but some players are letting him down by not playing as well as they can. As has been noted, Clifton is nowhere near as good or consistent as he was last season. If PH rests him for a few games but he still performs well in training what then? Clifton could easily think " what's the point, I'm going my best in training yet still can't get a game". Despondency creeps in and turns a drop in form into a ' can't be ars*d" mindset. Footballers are not robots and subject to mood swings, just like we all are.

Quoted from rancido

Maybe so but surely he can't be held responsible for every miss placed pass, poor judgement in positioning or failure to track a runner. Players can have a great game but make one miss placed pass that leads to a goal. Most of the players we have are playing at this level because they are prone to inconsistences. Obviously the ultimate responsibility lies with the manager but some players are letting him down by not playing as well as they can. As has been noted, Clifton is nowhere near as good or consistent as he was last season. If PH rests him for a few games but he still performs well in training what then? Clifton could easily think " what's the point, I'm going my best in training yet still can't get a game". Despondency creeps in and turns a drop in form into a ' can't be ars*d" mindset. Footballers are not robots and subject to mood swings, just like we all are.

I think you describe the situation very well but for Clifton read Hunt.

Quoted from rancido

Maybe so but surely he can't be held responsible for every miss placed pass, poor judgement in positioning or failure to track a runner. Players can have a great game but make one miss placed pass that leads to a goal. Most of the players we have are playing at this level because they are prone to inconsistences. Obviously the ultimate responsibility lies with the manager but some players are letting him down by not playing as well as they can. As has been noted, Clifton is nowhere near as good or consistent as he was last season. If PH rests him for a few games but he still performs well in training what then? Clifton could easily think " what's the point, I'm going my best in training yet still can't get a game". Despondency creeps in and turns a drop in form into a ' can't be ars*d" mindset. Footballers are not robots and subject to mood swings, just like we all are.

But the players aren't having great games, with one misplaced pass or shot that fans are blaming the manager for. The players are having generally poor games with multiple misplaced passes etc. The performances are tending on a downward trajectory, we are worse than when the season started.

Equally, if our players are at this level for a reason (inconsistency you say) then so are all the opposition so all managers are in the same boat.

We know that some players are playing far below their ability but is that individual performances or the system they are being asked to play, or both?

I am not Hurst out, yet, but the situation you describe is not what he is being held responsible for.