Hurst pre-Bradford

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

VAR is not for absolutes though is it, otherwise managers, players,pundits would not argue about far too many VAR decisions would they? Apologies wouldn't need to be given for wrong decisions.

Regarding xg stats you cannot score more goals by using them because they relate to that individual match, which has finished.

The next match is completely different to the last one so they are no good then either. The opposition is different, the quality is different  the weather is different, the venue may be different and the officials are different.

If xg stats were any good, you would have thought Hurst would have got the message by now.

Stats are interesting but interesting froth.

VAR is obviously about absolutes. It is a penalty or it isn't, it is offside or it isn't etc. Whether you agree with the decision or not VAR is all about getting an absolute answer in game.

You seem to have very little understanding of xG or football stats in general and how clubs find them useful. You could go educate yourself by researching it but if numbers aren't your thing you would likely find the subject extremely boring (as we all do with things that don't interest us).

But the club would be putting itself at a huge disadvantage if it didn't use them.

If you (or anyone else) is interested in finding more about xG and how it is used this gives a good high level view...

https://statsbomb.com/soccer-metrics/expected-goals-xg-explained/

Quoted from MarinerMal

VAR is obviously about absolutes. It is a penalty or it isn't, it is offside or it isn't etc. Whether you agree with the decision or not VAR is all about getting an absolute answer in game.

You seem to have very little understanding of xG or football stats in general and how clubs find them useful. You could go educate yourself by researching it but if numbers aren't your thing you would likely find the subject extremely boring (as we all do with things that don't interest us).

But the club would be putting itself at a huge disadvantage if it didn't use them.

If you (or anyone else) is interested in finding more about xG and how it is used this gives a good high level view...

https://statsbomb.com/soccer-metrics/expected-goals-xg-explained/

As you will have gathered Mal it bores me to tears.

I think I said somewhere that the individual match the stats refer to is gone, dead in the water. You won lost or drew so they have no relevance. The next match you might try to improve on the poorer stats of the last match, with some justification.  Trouble is the complexities of the next match are completely different to the last game. The opposition, the weather, the venue possibly, injuries etc etc, and furthermore in trying to improve some stats you may reduce effectiveness in other parts of the team, so I don't see how stats help there either. Even if all the stats improve, but we still lose how does that help?

To simple men like me, football is a simple game and although interesting to some I don't think stats mean anything, but for those who love 'em go for it!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

As you will have gathered Mal it bores me to tears.

I think I said somewhere that the individual match the stats refer to is gone, dead in the water. You won lost or drew so they have no relevance. The next match you might try to improve on the poorer stats of the last match, with some justification.  Trouble is the complexities of the next match are completely different to the last game. The opposition, the weather, the venue possibly, injuries etc etc, and furthermore in trying to improve some stats you may reduce effectiveness in other parts of the team, so I don't see how stats help there either. Even if all the stats improve, but we still lose how does that help?

To simple men like me, football is a simple game and although interesting to some I don't think stats mean anything, but for those who love 'em go for it!

Stats are just a way of analysing performance. It can be just on one match or many matches to get a trend. The more matches, generally, the more you can induce from the stats. You are correct though, they can't win you a game in and of themselves but maybe give you some insight into something you haven't noticed previously.

But I'll stop boring you with it now. We each enjoy the game in our own way.

"Lies, damn lies and statistics" huh  

Quoted from MarinerMal

Stats are just a way of analysing performance. It can be just on one match or many matches to get a trend. The more matches, generally, the more you can induce from the stats. You are correct though, they can't win you a game in and of themselves but maybe give you some insight into something you haven't noticed previously.

But I'll stop boring you with it now. We each enjoy the game in our own way.

"Lies, damn lies and statistics" huh  

"Maybe give you some insight into something you haven't noticed..." is something which is fair enough although you might have to change a few things around to sort it out and it could affect the dynamics in other areas. What really grates my gears is the feeling in some quarters that the stats are actually relevant to the game just gone. They are obviously not, apart from the stats of the final score. Nothing else matters for that game, but to see some lauding us over how much possession we had, or xg we had or how many heat maps showed this that and the other although we lost we actually almost won, sort of. I saw some league tables the other day that had us right up there in the promotion places. Great, apart from the fact they were tables based on a whole series of events that didn't equate to the actual final score of games!

I agree though, let each to their own and enjoy the games as they see fit.