Hurst pre-Bradford

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It's like VAR, the more you try to make sense of it the worse it gets. It was and always will be a very simple game, football. Score more than the opposition and you're laughing.

Yep very true, I am torn on VAR.

Definitely means more decisions are correct but I do not like the way it takes away the spontaneity of being a football fan.
Some of the VAR decisions recently have been beyond horrendous.
The toe nail/armpit being offside after 5 minutes of deliberation is just painful.
Personally I much prefer how we are down here.

All this talk of systems and stats but nothing from Golly?

Must be on holiday with no Wi-Fi.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Your argument was that a team with a very low xG couldn't finish in the top 3. But if they had an incredibly good defence they could.

my immediate thought was Greece, when they won the Euros would be the ones to look at. Arsenal were almost unbeatable but very parsimonious.There have been a fair few promotion winning sides who scored very few goals, but relied on a tight defence.

tbh, i quite like stats, but xG to me, seems like a load of bollox
ball hits the post and goes in, next one hits the post but stays out, 3rd one hits the post, hits the keeper on the rebound and goes in. Screws your stats straight away

How on earth did football survive all those years before statisticians got involved?

Had a late drop out.

If anyone needs a ticket today drop me a PM

Think I'll give this one another outing...

Quoted from 137

A league been won by the team scoring the fewest goals on two occasions.

In 1998 AIK won the Swedish title, despite scoring 25 goals in 26 games:

https://www.rsssf.org/tablesz/zwed98.html

Aduana Stars romped to the Ghanaian championship in 2009-10, despite scoring only 19 goals in their 30 games – winning the title thanks to their head-to-head record against Ashanti Gold (rather predictably the Stars won one of their meetings 1-0, while the other was a 0-0 draw):

https://www.rsssf.org/tablesg/gha2010.html

Quoted from forza ivano

my immediate thought was Greece, when they won the Euros would be the ones to look at. Arsenal were almost unbeatable but very parsimonious.There have been a fair few promotion winning sides who scored very few goals, but relied on a tight defence.

tbh, i quite like stats, but xG to me, seems like a load of bollox
ball hits the post and goes in, next one hits the post but stays out, 3rd one hits the post, hits the keeper on the rebound and goes in. Screws your stats straight away

Parsimonious and balderdash in one post gets a star from me!

Quoted from moosey_club

I thought I could detect the body language of a little fib in there.....could get a suprise on the team sheet I think.

Told you there was a suprise coming....could see it in his facial expressions.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It's like VAR, the more you try to make sense of it the worse it gets. It was and always will be a very simple game, football. Score more than the opposition and you're laughing.

It is nothing like VAR, VAR was brought in for absolutes and that is not what stats do. But the likelyhood of scoring is what xG shows and when compared to the opposition xG , what the chances were that you would score more than the opposition and were laughing.

It is just an insight to how the game played out and with that information you could conceivably increase your goals scored, if you use the information correctly.

Quoted from MarinerMal

It is nothing like VAR, VAR was brought in for absolutes and that is not what stats do. But the likelyhood of scoring is what xG shows and when compared to the opposition xG , what the chances were that you would score more than the opposition and were laughing.

It is just an insight to how the game played out and with that information you could conceivably increase your goals scored, if you use the information correctly.

VAR is not for absolutes though is it, otherwise managers, players,pundits would not argue about far too many VAR decisions would they? Apologies wouldn't need to be given for wrong decisions.

Regarding xg stats you cannot score more goals by using them because they relate to that individual match, which has finished.

The next match is completely different to the last one so they are no good then either. The opposition is different, the quality is different  the weather is different, the venue may be different and the officials are different.

If xg stats were any good, you would have thought Hurst would have got the message by now.

Stats are interesting but interesting froth.