Hurst pre-Bradford

Why can't we keep relying on worldies? Be great if we won the league with amazing goals.

I think sometimes we try to be too clever with our shots actually. League 2 goalies aren't that great, just belt it at them, you'll score plenty.

Quoted from EvilFish

Why can't we keep relying on worldies? Be great if we won the league with amazing goals.

I think sometimes we try to be too clever with our shots actually. League 2 goalies aren't that great, just belt it at them, you'll score plenty.

Add to that, teams taking specific action to block long range opportunities from the likes of Eisa creates room elsewhere that wouldn’t otherwise exist. To position those goals as some sort of negative is a nonsense.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

On field stats mean diddly squat. You can have 10 really good chances and lose. You can allow the opposition all of the possession and allow them numerable chances and win. There is every conceivable permutation in between and reams of stats about it, but the only things that matter is goals scored and conceded, the result and the league placing.

As someone said the rest is froth; interesting froth I grant you but froth nonetheless.

That is true but if all of the games are like that you probably won't win that many of them.

I think the problem with xg is that it doesn't take into account the state of the game. If you are winning and comfortable you are unlikely to create as many chances as when you are losing.
Saying that I guess you must have created some chances to go in front Haha, it's a minefield.

Quoted from CSLM

That is true but if all of the games are like that you probably won't win that many of them.

I think the problem with xg is that it doesn't take into account the state of the game. If you are winning and comfortable you are unlikely to create as many chances as when you are losing.
Saying that I guess you must have created some chances to go in front Haha, it's a minefield.

It's like VAR, the more you try to make sense of it the worse it gets. It was and always will be a very simple game, football. Score more than the opposition and you're laughing.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I was implying that it is exceptionally unlikely. Which it is. It is of course possible.

In a distant galaxy and time I can hear Mr Spock nodding approvingly with a wry smug smile on his face.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It's like VAR, the more you try to make sense of it the worse it gets. It was and always will be a very simple game, football. Score more than the opposition and you're laughing.

Not on here you're not, there'll always be something they find to moan about.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

There is one stat that is more important than any other:

Grimsby 9 points
Bradford 8 points

Everything else is froth.

League position is more important IMO. Points per game might give a more accurate representation of each team's merits for a particular match unfortunately these don't factor in form, injuries etc. I think we have also played more home games than Bradford 🙂

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

That's the point though. The team with the lower xG could definitely win tomorrow but there is not a prayer that a team with the lowest xG over the season then finish in the top 3 of the league. Those who want to discredit it always overstate it's supposed importance to do so. It's one measure. It's not as important as points or goals scored. It needs context and understanding. That doesn't mean it's shite or balderdash though.

Exactly

You could statistically win the league by scoring 20 odd goals.Win 20 odd games 1-0 and draw a load 0-0. Job done.

You could also win the league with a massive goal deficit. Win 30 games 1-0 and lose the rest 10-0.

All these things are possible but highly unlikely.

We do know how important stats are though. Many a recent successful side has got there using stats to find value in players that others didn't spot, and all clubs use these stats now, even us.

Quoted from ginnywings

You could statistically win the league by scoring 20 odd goals.Win 20 odd games 1-0 and draw a load 0-0. Job done.

You could also win the league with a massive goal deficit. Win 30 games 1-0 and lose the rest 10-0.

All these things are possible but highly unlikely.

We do know how important stats are though. Many a recent successful side has got there using stats to find value in players that others didn't spot, and all clubs use these stats now, even us.

No. It's meaningless fluff. That's why no Premier League team spend money on teams of analysts and why clubs like Brentford and Brighton keep signing duds.