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It Bites
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A couple of stinkers on Saturday, so should Hurst tinker or not for tomorrow?


Glennon and Hunt out and play vernams and rose up front in the Taylor Mcatee role  
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Glennon and Hunt out and play vernams and rose up front in the Taylor Mcatee role  


I said to mates I went with walking out of ML, whilst we’ve improved the squad at the back and in midfield a pre-hammy injury and fit Taylor along with McAtee is better than what we have now at 9 and 10. Both helped us keep the ball moving in the final third, which Notts did so well via McGoldrick. If you end up with a dead end on one side, hold the ball up, lay it off and switch it. Instead we were hitting the cul-de-sacs and losing possession .
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I would not call PH a tinker man but he has this incredible habit of signing crap unfit players and putting them straight in the team …… Pepple , Gnoua and loan players a plenty


Not knowing the details but Pepple came on loan as part of the deal with Luton for McAtee. We may have had to play him so many times!



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If Khan is fit I’d swap him for Vernham.


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If Khan is fit I’d swap him for Vernham.


He isn’t.
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Oh well…..if CV keeps his place, the time is now. We need to see this player.,


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Oh well…..if CV keeps his place, the time is now. We need to see this player.,


I don't think he has been as bad a lot of people make out.
Definitely could've done better but some of the criticism is over the top in my opinion.
He has done some decent stuff going forward and defensively.
I can understand the high expectations, certainly hasn't lived up to them yet but he can be a real asset for us.

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Concern is a lack of form for a few, and how open we look, together with a striker being isolated. Finding answers to all that isn’t easy. Does Hurst stick with current set up (pending injuries/fatigue) and persevere until it comes good (it inevitably will at some point) - or does he consider shoring us up a bit?? But then he risks the wrath of those wanting to be more positive. It’s not easy.

Does Glennon need taking out for a bit? Do we have a three in the middle instead of two? Do we go with two up?

May be worth giving Khouri a run out, alongside Conteh? Does Hunt play too deep?

There’s a million and one questions between us all I’m sure, but it’s up to Hurst to solve and players to perform. The worry is you need a result to get confidence, and the fixture list isn’t kind. Need a result sooner than later, otherwise pressure grows on players and fans get restless. Fans haven’t been negative for 2 seasons, quiet at home but understandable as you have to have moments on the pitch to get crowd involved, but not sure some will settle for another season of home games struggling for results.

And I do wish he’d not talk opposition teams up as much..he’s made Mansfield seem like Real Madrid, can’t be best message to send to your own players particularly when you play them again within 10 days. Also talked Notts C up, before and after..and Salford…would be nice to give opposition something to think about sometimes..

Ah well..here’s hoping to a few questions being answered tomorrow 👍


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Quoted from marinerjase
Concern is a lack of form for a few, and how open we look, together with a striker being isolated. Finding answers to all that isn’t easy. Does Hurst stick with current set up (pending injuries/fatigue) and persevere until it comes good (it inevitably will at some point) - or does he consider shoring us up a bit?? But then he risks the wrath of those wanting to be more positive. It’s not easy.

Does Glennon need taking out for a bit? Do we have a three in the middle instead of two? Do we go with two up?

May be worth giving Khouri a run out, alongside Conteh? Does Hunt play too deep?

There’s a million and one questions between us all I’m sure, but it’s up to Hurst to solve and players to perform. The worry is you need a result to get confidence, and the fixture list isn’t kind. Need a result sooner than later, otherwise pressure grows on players and fans get restless. Fans haven’t been negative for 2 seasons, quiet at home but understandable as you have to have moments on the pitch to get crowd involved, but not sure some will settle for another season of home games struggling for results.

And I do wish he’d not talk opposition teams up as much..he’s made Mansfield seem like Real Madrid, can’t be best message to send to your own players particularly when you play them again within 10 days. Also talked Notts C up, before and after..and Salford…would be nice to give opposition something to think about sometimes..

Ah well..here’s hoping to a few questions being answered tomorrow 👍


A good well thought out post and somewhere close to my thinking .

I am a Hurst fan , but also understand his relatively succesful style in the lower leagues is not always easy on the eye and people who pay 20 odd quid to be entertained for 2 hours are left feeling short changed at home , the style is normally much more suited away (especially when teams open up ) .

I think the most interesting question now is - does he revert to type (which like you say will risk the wrath of the fans) or persevere with this more fluid but open style against by my  count 6 teams out of the next 8 games whom  have on paper  better players than us , who I would not fancy opening up against  - that might be negative , but it's a results based business .

I actually think the more pragmatic old style was made for these first 10 games .
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