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Mansfield match thread

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Southwark Mariner
August 8, 2023, 6:40pm
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Niall Maher must have been the casualty from Saturday mentioned in the PH interview.
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I thought hunt took a knock ??
Went off I thought injured late second half ….
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Is the game on anyone else’s IPTV ?




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Is game on humberside onight , anyone know ? thanks
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August 8, 2023, 7:14pm
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On Humberside Digital Radio (not online) as far as I know.
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On Humberside Digital Radio (not online) as far as I know.


Thanks for that  
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Looks like a 4-2-3-1 with Eisa sat behind Rose
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Doesn't seem to be on IPTV?
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August 8, 2023, 7:24pm
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Commentary is on Mariners TV I believe, as there is a recorded message saying thanks for tuning in, your match day commentary show will start soon.

Edit:  Now hearing crowd sounds and music from the ground.  Yep JT and Crofty on duty.
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Apparently, so I've heard, allegedly etc. etc. The only games on IPTV are the Wrexham game (on Sky, shock horror) and Donny v Hull (absolutely no idea why).

No iFollow video coverage across the board for the League Cup, which seems ridiculous. No doubts the EFL had their knickers ripped down by Sky when they re-negotiated the TV deal
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Looks a good team - pleased Hurst is giving the other GK a game - important to test both the guys out.

The smell in the air (apart from woodbines a beer) is off a team really trying to move up a level......

How many Town fans there tonight?  Must be tough to get decent crowds at this time of year when a lot of folk are, erm, on their private yachts in the Med.
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Anyone got a link to humberside commentary thanks
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Anyone got a link to humberside commentary thanks


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August 8, 2023, 7:46pm
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Mansfield on top according to JT.
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Quoted from Yossarian
Looks a good team - pleased Hurst is giving the other GK a game - important to test both the guys out.

The smell in the air (apart from woodbines a beer) is off a team really trying to move up a level......

How many Town fans there tonight?  Must be tough to get decent crowds at this time of year when a lot of folk are, erm, on their private yachts in the Med.

We'd sold 441 yesterday but was also pay on the gate so probably 450-500ish I'd have guessed.
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August 8, 2023, 7:52pm
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If they keep this up I fear a goal is incoming soon.
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Battering us here , there is hardly anyone here - they should be 2 up .
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Listening to the commentary sounds like we are just holding on and defence all last ditch
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August 8, 2023, 7:54pm
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How many changes have we made from Saturday?
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How many changes have we made from Saturday?

5. Cartwright, Waterfall, Green, Holohan and Arthur G in for Eastwood, Maher, Clifton, Hunt and Conteh.
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August 8, 2023, 7:58pm
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Penalty for Mansfield.
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August 8, 2023, 7:59pm
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1-0 Mansfield.
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under the cosh




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Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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I'm here and we are offering absolutely nothing as an attacking threat. For all the support he is (not) getting he might as well be in the dressing room.


The aim of argument or discussion should not be victory but progress.

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I'm here and we are offering absolutely nothing as an attacking threat. For all the support he is (not) getting he might as well be in the dressing room.


Has PH ducked up the best Budget we’ve had in years ?
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Need to get through to half time at 1 and Hurst get into them and make some changes - we are not at the races which is strange for a Town team
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Has PH ducked up the best Budget we’ve had in years ?


Ah yes, because we judge the transfer window on a game and 30 minutes of football…

I imagine city fans were saying the same thing at Christmas when they were a fair whack behind arsenal…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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4 attacks to Mansfield's 36 in the first half. Welcome to normality. Nothing changes. Could hit a barn door etc.
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Has PH ducked up the best Budget we’ve had in years ?


Because of a bad half?
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4 attacks to Mansfield's 36 in the first half. Welcome to normality. Nothing changes. Could hit a barn door etc.


Yet they’re only 1-0 up from a penalty…fair play to the fishy, getting their moaning started early this year…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Don't think it's due to 1 - 0 more the fact but for a couple of great saves and poor finishing we could be losing by 5 and not laid a glove on them
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Yet they’re only 1-0 up from a penalty…fair play to the fishy, getting their moaning started early this year…


We’ve made five changes to a team that had seven debutants on Saturday. Not sure what people expect.
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We’ve made five changes to a team that had seven debutants on Saturday. Not sure what people expect.


It’s the fishy, they expect us to be winning at a canter, can make apparent informed judgements about transfer windows and, sadly, after our cup exploits on both fronts last year, probably expect us to win both this year…

Kudos though, they’re starting early this year…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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August 8, 2023, 8:19pm
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H-T 1-0 Mansfield.
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Sounds like we have nothing out wide yet still light in the middle? Too many names not getting a mention which means we are carrying players...possibly not the players fault...sounds like a system failure.


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Has PH ducked up the best Budget we’ve had in years ?


No.
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We’ve been absolutely dire. Barely put 2 passes together

Glennon and Vernam torn to pieces down the left hand side

Should be 5 down
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We’ve made five changes to a team that had seven debutants on Saturday. Not sure what people expect.


A frigging better show than that. They are better and hungrier than us in every department. The only positive from that is that we're only 1-0 down because Mansfield should be out of sight.
Glennon having a mare and don't get me started on Gnohoua.
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They are a very  good side and unlike us settled - not many changes in the summer and playing their first team.

We are a good side , that is newly constructed , resting some of our better players .


We should come out better second half
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A frigging better show than that. They are better and hungrier than us in every department. The only positive from that is that we're only 1-0 down because Mansfield should be out of sight.
Glennon having a mare and don't get me started on Gnohoua.


It has been poor , got to say Glennon worries me a bit for Saturday , Nemane for notts is a real pacey livewire on the right for them .
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August 8, 2023, 8:24pm
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Not sure how we kept it at 1-0. Their movement much faster than ours. They have just torn us apart out wide. Hopefully a better second half
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First half shows what a massive upgrade Conteh is on Green.


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At any level it's hard to throw a random team together and expect them to gel. I wish he knew what team and formation is his best and stick with it. Besides fitness that is what pre season is supposed to be about.
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Concentrating on the league….too many fishy people panicking too soon.

Not like we are playing against a bad side who were clear favourites to beat us.
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First half shows what a massive upgrade Conteh is on Green.


Green shouldn’t be anywhere near our starting eleven. But Conteh can’t be expected to play every minute of every game.
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We’ve made five changes to a team that had seven debutants on Saturday. Not sure what people expect.


Dare I say not to make the changes then against a very good settled side. This is an important game.
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I mean, if anyone needed some context, have a look at the half time scores in the league cup…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Quoted from lew chaterleys lover


Dare I say not to make the changes then against a very good settled side. This is an important game.


That’s not what I said,is it? I didn’t say it was right or wrong.
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What happened. I really want him to do well. He’s a good lad and only 21 but obviously football is unforgiving.
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Dare I say not to make the changes then against a very good settled side. This is an important game.


All games are important, per se but not sure why this would be more important than Saturday, or Tuesday next week.

A cup run is a great but I’m not sure anyone’s losing sleep or gonna be worried about losing a league cup game early doors in the season…we got to the 3rd round last year and made about 10 pence didn’t we?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Dare I say not to make the changes then against a very good settled side. This is an important game.


It's 5 games in 14 days to start , especially with the new time added on thing the same 11 can't be expected to play all of that time , it will be the strongest 11 Saturday no doubt .
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We’ve made five changes to a team that had seven debutants on Saturday. Not sure what people expect.


I would imagine that applies to most teams in the first round of this competition
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I’m not particularly bothered about this competition but it was a good chance for us to get a settled team with loads of new players gelling against a promotion contender in our league .
We seem to have treated it like another friendly against Grimsby Borough
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I’m not particularly bothered about this competition but it was a good chance for us to get a settled team with loads of new players gelling against a promotion contender in our league .
We seem to have treated it like another friendly against Grimsby Borough


Harsh, Borough have four stands…


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no flipping commentary in the second half then, or is it just me who can only hear the crowd?


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Anyone lost commentary of the game can only hear the crowd.


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Concentrating on the league….too many fishy people panicking too soon.

Not like we are playing against a bad side who were clear favourites to beat us.


Why clear favourites, according to many on here all the players we have signed are an improvement on last season and that we have a very good squad?
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Why clear favourites, according to many on here all the players we have signed are an improvement on last season and that we have a very good squad?


To be fair, I don’t think anyone expects a midfield with Green in it to be anything other than league 2…


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What was Cartwright booked for?
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Concentrate on the league…


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Ah well there's still the FA Cup  
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To be fair, I don’t think anyone expects a midfield with Green in it to be anything other than league 2…


League 2 might be a push. I like Green, but he's not good enough for this level as much fun as it is seeing him snap people on the pitch 🤣


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What was Cartwright booked for?


Bringing down striker in one on one conceding the penalty
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This is bad , if they could finish it would be 7 or 8 and then there really would have been a Fishy meltdown .
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This is bad , if they could finish it would be 7 or 8 and then there really would have been a Fishy meltdown .


So perhaps they’re having important conversations as well, hardly flipping clinical is it.

To be fair, I forgot we were playing until I checked live score earlier…


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It’s the fishy, they expect us to be winning at a canter, can make apparent informed judgements about transfer windows and, sadly, after our cup exploits on both fronts last year, probably expect us to win both this year…

Kudos though, they’re starting early this year…


I certainly don't expect us to be "winning at a canter" but I do expect full shifts and there are at least three not putting in the effort required to have a chance of winning a game at this level.


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League 2 might be a push. I like Green, but he's not good enough for this level as much fun as it is seeing him snap people on the pitch 🤣


True, but you’d imagine we’d rather be better than that. Funny as it can be, Green is flipping woeful in truth…


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I certainly don't expect us to be "winning at a canter" but I do expect full shifts and there are at least three not putting in the effort required to have a chance of winning a game at this level.


Not disagreeing but we know where those players will end up, one thing we do know about Hurst is he won’t allow laziness…interesting though, for all the fanfare when he signed again, Vernam has been anonymous…


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True, but you’d imagine we’d rather be better than that. Funny as it can be, Green is flipping woeful in truth…


I dunno, if he’s starting then a cheeky bet on him for the first yellow card is as good as printing money…


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Gnahoua Looks like one of  PH’s competition winners . I
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League 2 might be a push. I like Green, but he's not good enough for this level as much fun as it is seeing him snap people on the pitch 🤣


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Not disagreeing but we know where those players will end up, one thing we do know about Hurst is he won’t allow laziness…interesting though, for all the fanfare when he signed again, Vernam has been anonymous…


Two and three year contracts one would hope that had been considered before signing
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Trouble is you don't get the feeling we will come back and get a draw even,
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Two and three year contracts one would hope that had been considered before signing


To be fair, I expect nothing less of the fishy to judge a player after not even two games…

Then again, I remember people slagging off Nathan Arnold and he’d not even kicked a ball so not shocks I guess…


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2-0 down away to a promotion favourite….
Let’s concentrate on Saturday
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Lincoln making short work of Notts County so hope remains for Saturday
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2-0 down away to a promotion favourite….
Let’s concentrate on Saturday


Mansfield doing the right thing playing their best team, playing in a way that suits them and getting in a rhythm for the long season ahead. We on the other hand are still in the experimental pre season stage.
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I have faith in Hurst

And if players are not giving 100% he will whip em

I'm in no doubt he will be whipping a few after this
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Mansfield doing the right thing playing their best team, playing in a way that suits them and getting in a rhythm for the long season ahead. We on the other hand are still in the experimental pre season stage.


Like Pep does every year?


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Like Pep does every year?


As you would say what a "flipping" stupid reply.
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Can I just check, this is a Carabao Cup game isn’t it? If so, who gives a toss? I see on Facebook they’re all losing their shît, someone actually acting like the seasons over ffs.
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Efete on for Glennon bit strange with a left back on the bench
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Worryingly we are drawing another blank in front of goal. We just do not score enough goals to be  competitive. We need a forward.
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What was Cartwright booked for?


Cramp
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2nd game of the season and playing a Team that's favorite to go up this season (not that means its guaranteed). I know it's not ideal but lets not start this early.. "Grimsby Praise and Grumble" will be entertaining tonight.
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Worryingly we are drawing another blank in front of goal. We just do not score enough goals to be  competitive. We need a forward.


Yup. But ‘Grimsby nil’ isn’t a strange occurrence, is it?
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Can I just check, this is a Carabao Cup game isn’t it? If so, who gives a toss? .


The 500+ fans that have traveled to support us. They at least deserve a team that puts some effort in.  If we are beaten by the  better side fair enough.  If the players are treating it as a training session let us know. And we’ll put intercourse all effort in as well


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She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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Quoted from Civvy at last


The 500+ fans that have traveled to support us. They at least deserve a team that puts some effort in.  If we are beaten by the  better side fair enough.  If the players are treating it as a training session let us know. And we’ll put intercourse all effort in as well


I don’t disagree and I’ve been to many away game and made sure my opinion has been heard but, as my dear old Ma would say ‘nobody makes ya go’…

Even if I was there I’m not sure I’d be too arsed. I guess it shows that some of last years players won’t be first choice on this showing…


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Can I just check, this is a Carabao Cup game isn’t it? If so, who gives a toss? I see on Facebook they’re all losing their shît, someone actually acting like the seasons over ffs.


It's a professional football match that Town fans have paid good money to go to and watch, if you're happy that they would have been better pissing that money up a wall then good on ya
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Can I just check, this is a Carabao Cup game isn’t it? If so, who gives a toss? I see on Facebook they’re all losing their shît, someone actually acting like the seasons over ffs.


Yeh what’s the point of those second round home ties against Premiership sides on a balmy Tuesday evening.
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2 games and we have offered nothing up front  
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The 500+ fans that have traveled to support us. They at least deserve a team that puts some effort in.  If we are beaten by the  better side fair enough.  If the players are treating it as a training session let us know. And we’ll put intercourse all effort in as well


Never expected anything but a training session to be honest. If they were playing in my back garden I’d probably have closed the curtains. Amazed 500 have gone.
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Yeh what’s the point of those second round home ties against Premiership sides on a balmy Tuesday evening.


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Doesn’t take long does it? Christ almighty.
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Never expected anything but a training session to be honest. If they were playing in my back garden I’d probably have closed the curtains. Amazed 500 have gone.


Not with PH in charge. Expect he won't be happy with the performance, and rightly so.

You can say they are favourites for the league (along with about 10 others), and you can say it's only a cup game, but we didn't sound competitive or threatening in the slightest, and that is a worry in my opinion, even at this early stage of the season.
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Will Holahan , Green and Amos even be here by the end of the window ?
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Will Holahan , Green and Amos even be here by the end of the window ?


All on loan into the conference you’d imagine…

See ya Saturday…


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Can I just check, this is a Carabao Cup game isn’t it? If so, who gives a toss? I see on Facebook they’re all losing their shît, someone actually acting like the seasons over ffs.


So we couldn’t have got a premier league team and a decent payday in the next round? That’s alright then.
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So we couldn’t have got a premier league team and a decent payday in the next round? That’s alright then.


No, as was pointed out last year when we got Forest at home. It simply wasn’t the payday anyone half expected, we’re getting decent gates anyway so aside from probably 25k, not really.


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Think PH told the board he could take last years team no further.

Anyone disagree?

Last year was sensational as was the one before, but we have to be realistic and the squad still needs to be strengthened with some departures inevitable
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No, as was pointed out last year when we got Forest at home. It simply wasn’t the payday anyone half expected, we’re getting decent gates anyway so aside from probably 25k, not really.


There is the possibility of drawing a team away and getting our share of a 25k+ attendance instead of 8k.
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Sounds like we were crape don't care what competition it is it's not good enough they were all experienced 1st team players. Nothing up front again.
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No, as was pointed out last year when we got Forest at home. It simply wasn’t the payday anyone half expected, we’re getting decent gates anyway so aside from probably 25k, not really.


It's an extra game, and a full house. What the intercourse are you on about? Everyone has to pay as well of course, even season ticket holders.
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Same players, different names.

At least we've got until the end of the transfer window, to bring in some more same players different names.
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flipping Alf Ramsay’s out in force tonight…makes for great reading.


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No, as was pointed out last year when we got Forest at home. It simply wasn’t the payday anyone half expected, we’re getting decent gates anyway so aside from probably 25k, not really.


So it’s not worth the team getting out of bed for 25k extra revenue now?
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All on loan into the conference you’d imagine…

See ya Saturday…


I do think at least one will go .

I'm sure Saturday will be better after arr Paul gets into them .
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Always disappointing to lose any game but in the longer term this might well be doing us a favour by showing PH which players will not be good enough if we want to push for a play off position. When a number of us questioned Green’s abilities last year we were shouted down but maybe tonight further demonstrates that he’s probably conference level at best and, unfortunately, the same may apply to Gav. The two games played may also remind PH that we do need an alternative up front and this maybe needs more urgent attention than he first thought.

Still believe we have signed some decent players and it may take a little time for them to gel but we do need to increase our goal threat. Anyway look forward to Saturday’s visit to Meadow Lane and hopefully we see some real attacking threat.
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No, as was pointed out last year when we got Forest at home. It simply wasn’t the payday anyone half expected, we’re getting decent gates anyway so aside from probably 25k, not really.


I’d still take it though.
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Can't see how we only made 25k from over 8000 paying customers.

Don't know about Alf Ramsey, you sound more like Alf Garnett.  
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All on loan into the conference you’d imagine…

See ya Saturday…


Well if that’s the case we would need 3 or 4more incoming and the budget apparently is spent so. I doubt it.
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Can't see how we only made 25k from over 8000 paying customers.

Don't know about Alf Ramsey, you sound more like Alf Garnett.  


It’s predictable on here though, starts earlier every year seemingly.

It was excrement, Hurst will know who he can and can’t trust, some are still settling in, we’ve already identified areas of strength and those that require a little work…

In the grand scheme of a season, losing in the first round of the cup has zero impact. So you might have been able to make an additional £25k, still not really worth the somewhat predictable and typical over reaction to every town defeat…

Not sure Me Garnett would follow with my political leanings…


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I do think at least one will go .

I'm sure Saturday will be better after arr Paul gets into them .


You’d imagine Amos and Holohan both want to play, Holohan has dropped out the league before to play regularly so you’d imagine he’s not too worried. Amos is decent but Efete coming on, even in a system change suggests he’s unlikely to feature either.

Green might hang around to be that sort of player that is brought on to tighten things up, although I’d have him no where near the side and would bin him off and keep Holohan in the fold…


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Said last season that Green wasn’t good enough and got pelters for it. I stand by that statement. Holohan is also only good enough for back up.

But the concerning thing from tonight is the fact none of the new attacking signings did anything and the apparent lack of effort from some. I’d be interested to know which players weren’t giving their all.

I also think neither Amos or Glennon are good enough if you want to be around the top 7. Too slow and too easily beaten, they’re starting to get targeted and we concede a startling amount of our goals from that side.
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Said last season that Green wasn’t good enough and got pelters for it. I stand by that statement. Holohan is also only good enough for back up.

But the concerning thing from tonight is the fact none of the new attacking signings did nothing and the apparent lack of effort from some. I’d be interested to know which players weren’t giving their all.

I also think neither Amos or Glennon are good enough if you want to be around the top 7. Too slow and too easily beaten, they’re starting to get targeted and we concede a startling amount of our goals from that side.


I think Glennon is much better when he’s got someone he can trust in front of him, although I still prefer 3 at the back with Glennon out wide.

If we need back up I’d keep Holohan. I’ve never been a fan of Green and I’m not overly keen on Maher but I do think he will improve this season and Saturday’s back four is no doubt our strongest, even a change can skew a defensive unit.


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Said last season that Green wasn’t good enough and got pelters for it. I stand by that statement. Holohan is also only good enough for back up.

But the concerning thing from tonight is the fact none of the new attacking signings did anything and the apparent lack of effort from some. I’d be interested to know which players weren’t giving their all.

I also think neither Amos or Glennon are good enough if you want to be around the top 7. Too slow and too easily beaten, they’re starting to get targeted and we concede a startling amount of our goals from that side.


If you play with effectively wingers (Vernam and Eisa/Gnahoua) you need good defensive full backs. Mullarkey is, Glennon isn’t.
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You’d imagine Amos and Holohan both want to play, Holohan has dropped out the league before to play regularly so you’d imagine he’s not too worried. Amos is decent but Efete coming on, even in a system change suggests he’s unlikely to feature either.

Green might hang around to be that sort of player that is brought on to tighten things up, although I’d have him no where near the side and would bin him off and keep Holohan in the fold…


I agree in that holohan offers more than green but doesn't green have 2 more years on his contract as opposed to holohan with 1? - that might decide that holohan is the one to leave. We have plenty of options in CM so that might be enough to free up enough budget to get a forward in on loan or something.
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I don't blame the players. A team picked to give players a game is no good for anybody. Every part of the team changed - what chance have they got? You need to make the odd change when necessary but you need a team to gel and get a rhythm going.

You could see on Saturday it's going to be a struggle to score goals and tonight we did well to get into their half.

I will be amazed if we go 2 successive games unchanged during the season.

Oh and we obviously need a big front man but what's new.
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I agree in that holohan offers more than green but doesn't green have 2 more years on his contract as opposed to holohan with 1? - that might decide that holohan is the one to leave. We have plenty of options in CM so that might be enough to free up enough budget to get a forward in on loan or something.


Green signed a 2 year deal with an option for a 3rd. Hopefully our option not his.
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Said last season that Green wasn’t good enough and got pelters for it. I stand by that statement. Holohan is also only good enough for back up.

But the concerning thing from tonight is the fact none of the new attacking signings did anything and the apparent lack of effort from some. I’d be interested to know which players weren’t giving their all.

I also think neither Amos or Glennon are good enough if you want to be around the top 7. Too slow and too easily beaten, they’re starting to get targeted and we concede a startling amount of our goals from that side.


The left side of our defence has been targeted for a long time now. Glennon's judgement when a ball is played over his head into space is really poor for this level, and for the second half of last season, virtually every team we played knew and targeted it.
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Vernam gave him no support either. 3 year deal?! Must be pissing himself.
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Vernam gave him no support either. 3 year deal?! Must be pissing himself.


Agree 100%. Shocking business


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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Vernam gave him no support either. 3 year deal?! Must be pissing himself.


From the friendlies to last Saturday I thought he hadn't done enough and I am/was a fan of him when he was last here.

I was still very surprised that we paid money and a 3 year deal.

He needs to do more than he has so far.
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Thought Vernam was an in and out player last time we had him, nothings changed imo.
As for Green a liability this season, the league's got as lot stronger and unless we sign some fire power from somewhere we are going to struggle.
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2 games and we have offered nothing up front  


You mean two seasons.
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From the friendlies to last Saturday I thought he hadn't done enough and I am/was a fan of him when he was last here.

I was still very surprised that we paid money and a 3 year deal.

He needs to do more than he has so far.


Agree with this.
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You mean two seasons.


Well yes  i stand corrected  
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Looks like Green and Vernam are neck and neck for the boo-boy target this season...

Sounded a shocker of a performance and whilst it's not what those who went will want to hear but I'd rather we get that out the way now.  Reading between the lines with what Hurst said post-game and a few bits going into it, he's recognised that there are some players who just aren't going to be on this journey with us.

As said yesterday, that's expected as we look to improve.  The likes of Holohan, who were huge in the last 18 months for us, just aren't what we need anymore to kick on to that next level.  That's the harsh realities of football and striving for the next step up.

This time last summer we thought Green was what we needed.  And he played a role in what we achieved last season with a mid-table finish and a cup run.  That brings extra resource and with that extra ambition.  Green's role is now taken by Conteh, as someone we've identified that will help us progress.

It's disappointing and I do feel for those that went, it's effectively the closest game to me yet I couldn't be bothered.  I guessed that it would be a fair few changes to the line-up and felt we wouldn't be at the races with it.  But will we really line-up like that in the league at any point? I think probably not.
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Meanwhile the live game broadcast by Sky was………..

Wrexham v Wigan.

What a surprise.
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I rarely comment about tactics, not my thing, but One thing I don't understand is why we bring everyone back to defend a corner!  If it is cleared, it comes straight back into the mix, whereas one player left up field might have a chance of getting the clearance, or at least it keeps 1 or 2 of their players from adding to the threat in our penalty area.
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Why did we not try and sign George Lloyd?
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Why did we not try and sign George Lloyd?


I give up, why did we not try and sign George Lloyd?


The Future is Black & White.
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Why did we not try and sign George Lloyd?


Hurst was asked this last week. Said it was made pretty obvious to him early in the window that it would not be a goer. He’s also said that situations, in general, change once the season starts and players become aware of whether they’re in the manager’s plans or not.

So you never know, not been in the Cheltenham squad for the first two games now, he might be starting to think about other options now being in his last season in contract.
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Hurst was asked this last week. Said it was made pretty obvious to him early in the window that it would not be a goer. He’s also said that situations, in general, change once the season starts and players become aware of whether they’re in the manager’s plans or not.

So you never know, not been in the Cheltenham squad for the first two games now, he might be starting to think about other options now being in his last season in contract.


He's Injured
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Impressed in pre-season too, which seems a shame for him as with Alfie May going and Cheltenham struggling to bring in replacements it could have been his real breakthrough there.

Needs an operation now, not sure on what.  I think we can definitely chalk him off on the not happening board, definitely for this window anyway.
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He's Injured


We need to move on from that chronic then.
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