Is it too early?

So back to the original poster:

Amos- pushes on too far too often and gets caught out of position.  Not good enough
Orsi-  still young but National league at best
Taylor- good player who suffers from crap service, like him and more to give
Holohan- doesn’t contribute enough and poor distribution
Morris- needs better players round him, tidy player
Shaun- wtf did we sign him for?  Not disputing his commitment but a complete waste of a wage
Scannel- good player……5 years ago
Cropper- National league at best
Waterfall- Every team needs a Luke, winner and leader
Loanies-  Smith is the only one I’d keep, the rest have been a total waste of cash.  Did Hurst actually watch them?

I'd happily see Lloyd here next season. Just as long as he isn't playing as a lone forward! Looks as decent player and I reckon he'd score a few in a team with a better attacking set up.

Quoted from Maringer

I'd happily see Lloyd here next season. Just as long as he isn't playing as a lone forward! Looks as decent player and I reckon he'd score a few in a team with a better attacking set up.

Yep, 12 goals in 120 games, just the sort of prolific striker we’re crying out for.

Quoted from TheFryingSquad

So it’s okay to sack off the players who some think aren’t good enough, but not the manager that signed them all, very odd.  So what is there to suggest that PH will make better choices this time round?

In general its the manager that gets the sack, not the players.

We are not talking about sacking the players, its about giving new contracts, for those deserve one.

One of the biggest problems is our training ground, being located  in Waltam. Its not like years gone by when all the players lived in the Grimsby area.  Due to the nature of the business these days, players are only been offered one or two years contracts, who is going to uproot their family and move to the Grimsby area based on a short contract.
It would make more sense to base our training ground at the end of the M180 (Doncaster area). less travelling and a wider catchment area were players could stay in their current location, only travelling to Grimsby on matchdays, Barrow train in Manchester.

Really? It’s not been said..didn’t know that..


Honest guv…🤷‍♂️.



Why people persist with this when they know a training ground within the Town is in latter stages of planning I don’t know..

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Where are you getting ‘men’ loanees from? We’ve failed miserably on loan recruitment this year.

Yes we did fail but hopefully with a little extra money from the cup run we could pay a bit of their wages.

It might work but if you do not try you will never find out.

Whether too early or not, I started thinking about next season a few days ago.

The question I put to myself was "who could I see being part of a promotion challenging team?"

Clifton and Waterfall. (pauses for thought)

Emmanuel and Smith are unlikely to be ours next season, and whilst Lloyd could be part of a promotion challenging team,
if we continue to play one up front we need a different type of player.

Crocombe is OK - but would ideally be our second-choice keeper. Maybe Efete and Khan as squad players.
Maher perhaps, if he could act as cover for the left-back position.

But basically Clifton and Waterfall then, and the latter will need younger legs around him.
Our other contracted players will no doubt give their all, which seems unlikely to be good enough judging by our league
performances this season.

Paul Hurst has got his work cut out to satisfy the fans demanding 'play-offs as a minimum' next season imo.

And whilst we've seen some recent Town performances that are best/generously explained by the players showing the
strain of the punishing 18 months the club has just had, Croxton made the valid point that PH has been on the same
journey and must be knackered too.

Tired minds don't tend to make good decisions, so let's hope the head of recruitment proves to be valuable.

So having seriously downgraded my expectations for next season, I decided to stop pretending to be a football manager
and went to the nearest bar to seek comfort in alcohol. (Stick to what you're good at   )

UTM

Quoted from The Yard Dog

In general its the manager that gets the sack, not the players.

We are not talking about sacking the players, its about giving new contracts, for those deserve one.

One of the biggest problems is our training ground, being located  in Waltam. Its not like years gone by when all the players lived in the Grimsby area.  Due to the nature of the business these days, players are only been offered one or two years contracts, who is going to uproot their family and move to the Grimsby area based on a short contract.
It would make more sense to base our training ground at the end of the M180 (Doncaster area). less travelling and a wider catchment area were players could stay in their current location, only travelling to Grimsby on matchdays, Barrow train in Manchester.

If we want a really good training ground that belongs to us then I suspect the funding streams available to enable and support it will be dependent on it being a community asset. Personally I’d prefer the residents of Grimsby & Cleethorpes to benefit from improved facilities as well as the academy & ladies Town teams ahead of people out of town.

Barrow are doing well for sure but they don’t seem to me to be the blue print for a community club. I suspect that their Salford base is as much about managing cost as it is attracting talent, I may be wrong.

Are fans really expecting “playoffs as a minimum”? Genuine question. Obviously, I’m all for progress but I don’t see what entitles us to to going from bottom half to promotion contenders, in a matter of months.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Are fans really expecting “playoffs as a minimum”? Genuine question. Obviously, I’m all for progress but I don’t see what entitles us to to going from bottom half to promotion contenders, in a matter of months.

I've said this many times that people are expecting too much next season.
I think we should be aiming for the play offs but the ultimate goal should be progression so therefore a top 12 finish and be within reach of the play offs with a few games to go.