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Quoted from quebec38

Because it’s a discussion forum and it’s fine to debate things? We see things differently and are in disagreement. I understand where chaos is coming from and he may do me.

The proof will be in the pudding. I think this will destroy Chesterfield’s promotion hopes the same as most, but it would do anyone if they lost their top scorer, whether he was 10 in front or 20. Hence my point of over reliance. They rely on him because he’s their best player, do they rely on him any more than Solihull rely on their two top scorers or we do McAtee? I think it’s just the same, personally.

Quoted from mariner91

Yes, quite heavily.

Quoted from mariner91

But it doesn't matter how many goals the rest of the team have scored, it's the contribution of the individual player that dictates whether or not they're a one man team. At Wrexham Mullin has scored 26% of their goals, Cheek has scored 36% of Bromley's goals, Waters 32% of Halifax's goals and Madden 20% of Stockport's. None of them are even close to the 50% that Tshimanga contributed to Chesterfield, they are far more reliant on him than other teams are on their top scorers.

There were 10 games so far this season where Tshimanga's goals directly altered the outcome of the game in Chesterfield's favours which has won them an extra 17 points. That would put them on the same points as Southend. Obviously some goals would be scored by his replacement but you reckon Asante is going to start knocking in a goal virtually every game? I'd be astonished.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Here's the PPG so far this season.

Names/Games/PPG
Amos     6     2.17
Khouri     3     2.00
Raikhy     5     2.00
McKeown     17     1.88
McAtee     24     1.88
Sears     8     1.88
Sousa     26     1.85
Wright     12     1.83
Pearson     19     1.79
Burgess     4     1.75
Hunt     19     1.74
Clifton     27     1.70
Abrahams     6     1.67
Coke     21     1.62
Taylor     27     1.59
Waterfall     29     1.59
Crookes     21     1.57
Fox     29     1.55
Efete     20     1.55
Bapaga     12     1.50
Smith     4     1.50
Towler     15     1.47
Reavn     10     1.30
John-Lewis     18     1.28
Crocombe     14     1.21
Scannell     4     1.00
Longe-King     8     0.88
Maguire-Drew     6     0.67
Bell     5     0.20
Grant     3     0.00

So whilst McAtee is one of the higher PPG, I don't think we a reliant on him.

Quoted from quebec38

McAtee went off injured against Wealdstone where we lost. We went on to to lose 4 of the next 5 whilst not fit enough to play more than a bit part.
He returned against D&R where he got sent off. We lost that game and then the next two in his absence but managed a draw against Halifax.
Look at the upturn in results since his return.

Quoted from quebec38

Not really? It suggests to me that there isn’t much between any of them, just that Thsimanga on his own is a freak and it completely skews things in terms of his contribution to team goals, not that they rely on him too heavily.

Quoted from ginnywings

So you are using an argument that we struggled massively without our top scorer to back up your claim that Chesterfield are not reliant on their top scorer.

Bizarre concept.

Quoted from quebec38

Not really? It suggests to me that there isn’t much between any of them, just that Thsimanga on his own is a freak and it completely skews things in terms of his contribution to team goals, not that they rely on him too heavily.