Matt hancock

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Surely most people are worldly-wise enough to know that rotten apples infest every government; every political party is riddled with them.

In this instance the hypocrisy of Matt Hancock takes some beating, everyone agrees on that, but governments seem to reek of it - at the G7 summit, hypocrisy was in full flow - no social distancing, no masks at private functions, more than 30 people etc, flying in with no self-isolation.

These failures of the human condition, or stupidity, is in modern parlance, "baked in" to a degree when the public cast their vote. Politicians are not gods, they often make the same mistakes as us and a lot more besides.

All governments start off with a fanfare of making the world a better place, only to falter on the altar of hypocrisy or sleaze or financial impropriety, or all three as in this case.

As a conservative, I hope the government gets its act together quickly and re-establishes its authority, but the problem in British politics at the moment is the lack of a credible alternative. The world has moved on and the voters will reject any suggestion of a socialist government - some cynics might argue the current government with its finding of the money tree during this pandemic is the closest we will ever get to a socialist government.

Labour really ought to get its act together soon and find a meaningful purpose before it disappears altogether. It is not good for democracy not to have a credible alternative, and the Conservative party should quickly find some humility and apologise for recent mistakes and get their own house in order.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Surely most people are worldly-wise enough to know that rotten apples infest every government; every political party is riddled with them.

In this instance the hypocrisy of Matt Hancock takes some beating, everyone agrees on that, but governments seem to reek of it - at the G7 summit, hypocrisy was in full flow - no social distancing, no masks at private functions, more than 30 people etc, flying in with no self-isolation.

These failures of the human condition, or stupidity, is in modern parlance, "baked in" to a degree when the public cast their vote. Politicians are not gods, they often make the same mistakes as us and a lot more besides.

All governments start off with a fanfare of making the world a better place, only to falter on the altar of hypocrisy or sleaze or financial impropriety, or all three as in this case.

As a conservative, I hope the government gets its act together quickly and re-establishes its authority, but the problem in British politics at the moment is the lack of a credible alternative. The world has moved on and the voters will reject any suggestion of a socialist government - some cynics might argue the current government with its finding of the money tree during this pandemic is the closest we will ever get to a socialist government.

Labour really ought to get its act together soon and find a meaningful purpose before it disappears altogether. It is not good for democracy not to have a credible alternative, and the Conservative party should quickly find some humility and apologise for recent mistakes and get their own house in order.

Quoted from Stadium

"All in this together," is the tag line isn't it?
Absolutely laughable.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

All political slogans are just PR bull. We all know that, surely. You will be quoting the "pound in your pocket..." in a minute.  

Quoted from DB

Having read this, and other posts, I tried to think of the best red and blue prime ministers we have had while I've been alive.

For labour, I'll go back to Harold Wilson (although he sold out to Iceland thanks to the yanks!). I would have liked the late John Smith to have been premier but alas that was not to be the case. Corbyn reminds me of a latter-day Michael Foot.

For conservative it would have to be Maggie, apart from her last tenure when she thought she was the Queen! Nobody comes anywhere near her for them. Too many career politicians with no knowledge of people, just how to massage and manipulate without committing to anything.

To me, they are all on an ego trip for what they can get out of it for themselves which is why I'm neither red nor blue.

Quoted from smokey111

Whilst I respect your views DB, I find it hard to understand those who can flit from party to party. I acknowledge I might be somewhat dogmatic, but I have my political ideology and I vote for the individual/party who most closely mirrors it.

I am not fishing for an argument just genuinely interested if you have historically voted for Wilson and then Thatcher?

Quoted from DB

Yes