Matt hancock

“A bloke like Corbyn running our country”. But Johnson is a stand up bloke who’s really good at the job  

Who said I thought Boris is doing a good job .

It's every person's right to use their vote as they deem fit.

The same old voices on here can not except they are in the minority .

Have a good look round the town and see what Labour have done for Grimsby.

Then come down here and see how much better it is under years of conservative rule.

At least the conservative council are trying to bring Grimsby up to date.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Who said I thought Boris is doing a good job .

It's every person's right to use their vote as they deem fit.

The same old voices on here can not except they are in the minority .

Have a good look round the town and see what Labour have done for Grimsby.

Then come down here and see how much better it is under years of conservative rule.

At least the conservative council are trying to bring Grimsby up to date.

Are you saying your home town is a shithole Pete?

Quoted from grimsby pete

Who said I thought Boris is doing a good job .

It's every person's right to use their vote as they deem fit.

The same old voices on here can not except they are in the minority .

Have a good look round the town and see what Labour have done for Grimsby.

Then come down here and see how much better it is under years of conservative rule.

At least the conservative council are trying to bring Grimsby up to date.

lmao we've had the Conservatives in power since 2010 who've spent all that time massively slashing council budgets. How exactly were Labour councils up and down the country meant to improve things in those circumstances?



Why is it 'nicer' in leafy Suffolk? Because the Tories targeted the biggest cuts towards Labour run urban councils:



Honestly, you can use your vote however you please, but don't come up with nonsense rationale for doing so and expect everyone to just go 'ah yeah right, guess it is all labour's fault then nice one pete and boris'

Quoted from grimsby pete

Who said I thought Boris is doing a good job .

It's every person's right to use their vote as they deem fit.

The same old voices on here can not except they are in the minority .

Have a good look round the town and see what Labour have done for Grimsby.

Then come down here and see how much better it is under years of conservative rule.

At least the conservative council are trying to bring Grimsby up to date.

The country is in a mess and who's been in power for 11 years?

Tory voters are not the majority. Unfortunately our stupid system means you can get significantly less than 50% of the votes but get significantly more than 50% of the seats.

You lot are saying it's all the Tories fault  all I am saying what it's like down here compared to Grimsby.

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The town like the football ground has been neglected under both the Tories and Labour I am not telling anybody I don't know how you can vote for them or them you use your vote to elect who you want in power.

So please don't tell me how I should use my vote like I said I can change my mind unlike most of you who can only cast your votes one way.

Anyway we have gone through this too many times if you want change you know what to do at the next election and you never know I might agree with you by then.

So it's goodnight from me and up the mariners that one thing we all agree on.

Totally respect your right to vote any way you see fit Pete, and I suspect others would agree with me, in that it's a democracy and everyone is free to use their own ballot paper however they choose.

What some of us can't understand is how anyone, not just yourself, can switch from one political ideology to another based on personality, and to a degree on personal circumstances. I vote for what I believe is the best for everyone, and the leader of that party has no bearing on the bigger picture. Besides, how anyone can castigate Corbyn, then vote for a known liar and philanderer is baffling to me.

I believe that working people would be better off under a Labour government and I simply cannot understand how anyone who works for a living (most of us) think that the Tories have their best interests at heart. They come from a different world to most of us and want to keep that world to themselves at the expense of the majority.

I'll give the Tories enormous credit though for the way in which they have convinced enough people to keep them in power, whilst the blame for all our ills is laid at the door of others. They have been in power for over a decade, yet most folk seem to blame the Labour party and Johnny foreigner for the state of Towns like Grimsby and the recently converted Hartlepool. It's a brilliant con trick from a party of conmen.

You've called me a Communist Pete and I seem to be getting labelled as a Marxist on occasions too. Again, this is a master stroke by the Tories and their press machine, in that they have convinced people that Socialism is a dirty word and anyone that has a left persuasion is somehow a subversive bent on overthrowing the establishment. We're not.

Finally, the Tories got 43 per cent of the vote at the election, yet have the majority of seats in government. That is not the majority of people, but it gives them the majority of the power. This is a fault of the stupid electoral system we have, which they want to keep for obvious reasons. They are also pushing through boundary changes which will favour their party. Let's not forget that Brexit only just scraped through as well, with the vote just favouring leave. Again, the Tories lied massively to swing it in their favour when it looked for all the world the vote was going the other way.

Quoted from mariner91

The country is in a mess and who's been in power for 11 years?

Tory voters are not the majority. Unfortunately our stupid system means you can get significantly less than 50% of the votes but get significantly more than 50% of the seats.

Yes you are right and no you are wrong.

The country is in a mess and has been for many decades. After WW2 there was little investment if any mainly because the country was broke financially. After the wartime coalition government, we went back to the old system that served politics for years, but the country had changed and the politicians didn't see it.

Even today they have rose coloured spec about Great Britain but fail to accept we are not Great anymore.

There is no vision for the future, look at roads when they are expanded. Add a lane here and there and when finished they are still congested and not free-flowing.

Housing is a joke, why is it not law for all new homes to have solar panels to meet their needs.

Taxation another joke, Amazon and Co. pay little (throw away perfectly good stock) and the rest of the population support this with our taxes.

What they call communities disappeared years ago with Maggie, Miners, fishermen steelworkers etc. all decimated. Police called in to arrest neighbours who protested, perhaps that is why the police no longer live in the area they look after (supposedly).

Without elaborating on past failures of all governments what does the future hold? The defence of the realm should be first and foremost. A wad of rain-washed papers answering our detailed plans for our navy in the Black Sea. Events that were less than a week old, it's a joke. 2 new Billion-pound aircraft carriers to protect our diminished assets around the world, authorised by Blair and Brown.

Aid to India who has atomic bombs, criticising China while we trade billions of £'s with them. It just goes on and on and covered up with red tape. Scratch the surface it looks awful.

The country is in one hell of a mess and needs a minimum of 10/20 to get out of it. A coalition but who would lead. I have no faith in either Boris or Starmer. Labour front bench, I don't know any of them. Tory front bench Ministers of State - next Joke!

The best way I can describe us as a nation is like having a 26mm hole with a 25mm disc to fix it; with a politician shouting weld it for now we'll do a proper job later!

Looks like certain issues won't be going away for Hancock.

Quoted from grimsby pete

You lot are saying it's all the Tories fault  all I am saying what it's like down here compared to Grimsby.

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The town like the football ground has been neglected under both the Tories and Labour I am not telling anybody I don't know how you can vote for them or them you use your vote to elect who you want in power.

So please don't tell me how I should use my vote like I said I can change my mind unlike most of you who can only cast your votes one way.

Anyway we have gone through this too many times if you want change you know what to do at the next election and you never know I might agree with you by then.

So it's goodnight from me and up the mariners that one thing we all agree on.

Nobody’s telling you how to use your vote, just pointing out how laughable it is for you to moan about being treated like a fool having done something incredibly foolish just 18 months back.

As for what has happened to Grimsby, as chrisblor has explained, there’s a direct link between the downturn of places like Grimsby and people in places like leafy Suffolk voting to enact those policies. Still, always someone else’s fault eh?

I’ve not lived in Grimsby for going on 15 years, but in that time a Labour council gave the club a free site off Peaks Parkway to build a ground, but Fenty fcked that up. Then they brought in the Town Deal which is paying for redevelopment across the town. They also approved the Great Coates planning application, and wrote a commitment to relocating the club into the Council’s Core Strategy planning policy. Doesn’t seem like the club have been particularly neglected by anyone other than it’s own board.