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mariner91
June 26, 2021, 11:12pm
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I did and still will until Starmer actually tells us what he stands for instead of spending all his energy just having a go at the Tories.
Then maybe I will consider voting Labour again.



You can vote for someone else you know? It's not just Tory or Labour. Why would you vote for the Tories again given the absolute mess the country is in, the horrific way they've handled the pandemic and the blatant corruption where billions of OUR money is being handed out to their mates for nothing in return? I suppose some still have that old serf mentality that those from a richer background and who talk in a plummy voice must know better than we do and therefore us plebs should keep them in power.


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You can vote for someone else you know? It's not just Tory or Labour. Why would you vote for the Tories again given the absolute mess the country is in, the horrific way they've handled the pandemic and the blatant corruption where billions of OUR money is being handed out to their mates for nothing in return? I suppose some still have that old serf mentality that those from a richer background and who talk in a plummy voice must know better than we do and therefore us plebs should keep them in power.

Because they are the only major party that respected my vote when I voted to leave in the EU Referendum.



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Fair enough. Ireland says thanks for their first-ever trade surplus with the UK, by the way.

As for Hancock, his usefulness as a human shield to deflect the flak from the rest of the government has obviously come to an end. Hence the 'leak' of incriminating photos from 6 weeks earlier to a government-friendly rag. Why, it's almost as though there is some sort of collusion going on between the government and parts of the media! Who'd have thunk it?

Nobody will be sad to see Hancock go. We already knew he's 'Totally f*cking hopeless' as Johnson himself apparently said about 15 months ago, which rather begs the question as to why he was left in a role to which he was so unsuited during such an unprecedented public health emergency? I suppose some of the other options in cabinet would have been even worse but being slightly less excrement than somebody else isn't exactly a glowing reference. I wonder how much his friends and family have coined from the public purse during the past 15 months? Would be interesting to see.
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I have voted for both red and blue and feel let down every time because they don't do what they promise in their manifesto.

It is absolutely amazing that no government (either colour) has brought out a law to say the manifesto pledges should be made law if that party wins an election. Then again turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

Incidentally, last time around I voted for Boris, not because I thought he would a good Prime Minister but he was the only one who said he would take out of the EU. He hasn't done a brilliant job on that but at least we're out.

My problem now is who to vote for next time, not keen on Boris and I don't know of a credible alternative in either party.


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The outcry and concern here shouldn’t be that wanksock fingered his aide, nor should we be arsed that someone leaked the CCTV, after all, we know they’ll all throw each other under the bus.

The outcry should be the billions in contracts to mates and chums that have been handed out, it’s eye watering and disgraceful…mind boggling that people still think the odd person that won’t have a vaccine is an issue…


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Because they are the only major party that respected my vote when I voted to leave in the EU Referendum.



I really don’t want to get dragged into this but: It’s almost as if it was a terrible idea that only benefits a very small group of people. If a group of ten friends were out walking and one wanted to jump off the Humber bridge would you jump?

Politcs has become very similar to football in the sense that whoever it is that you voted for last time can do no wrong and people will support that party no matter what. We’re a very stubborn nation who hate admitting we were wrong. This government have been allowed to get away with everything they have because they delivered Brexit. The consequences of which are going to be minimised by their friendly media (who will also benefit).
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Because they are the only major party that respected my vote when I voted to leave in the EU Referendum.



And how’s that working out for you?


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Unlike you I could not vote for Labour with the leader they had.

The next election I might vote for Labour again but they have to get their act together.



Couldn’t care less who you vote for in the next election.

Your post just rings a bit hollow now you’ve decided Boris has no morals and says anything just to get his way. Of course he’ll continue to treat people as fools given so many of you mugs voted for it 18 months back! Problem is, we’re ALL suffering because of you, as will future generations.

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Seems the Tory knives are really out for Hancock. The Times also reporting that he uses his personal e-Mail account to transact government business. This article focuses on the audit ability aspect. But the other key factor it doesn’t mention is security. Official e-Mail servers will have stronger security than your run of the mill mail. I could get sacked if I used my own e-Mail for company business.

https://apple.news/At-4WaCaLSEmkJsjRQkt8Yw


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Surely most people are worldly-wise enough to know that rotten apples infest every government; every political party is riddled with them.

In this instance the hypocrisy of Matt Hancock takes some beating, everyone agrees on that, but governments seem to reek of it - at the G7 summit, hypocrisy was in full flow - no social distancing, no masks at private functions, more than 30 people etc, flying in with no self-isolation.

These failures of the human condition, or stupidity, is in modern parlance, "baked in" to a degree when the public cast their vote. Politicians are not gods, they often make the same mistakes as us and a lot more besides.

All governments start off with a fanfare of making the world a better place, only to falter on the altar of hypocrisy or sleaze or financial impropriety, or all three as in this case.

As a conservative, I hope the government gets its act together quickly and re-establishes its authority, but the problem in British politics at the moment is the lack of a credible alternative. The world has moved on and the voters will reject any suggestion of a socialist government - some cynics might argue the current government with its finding of the money tree during this pandemic is the closest we will ever get to a socialist government.

Labour really ought to get its act together soon and find a meaningful purpose before it disappears altogether. It is not good for democracy not to have a credible alternative, and the Conservative party should quickly find some humility and apologise for recent mistakes and get their own house in order.
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