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rancido
April 9, 2021, 11:17pm

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Quoted from wigworld
Wasn't there something about an endangered newt that scuppered plans as well?


It was actually a variety of bird called a Golden Plover that had been seen using the proposed site for roosting. The fact that when disturbed the birds could fly to an adjacent site was completely ignored by Natural England (?). The club were also expected to buy an equivalent area to set aside to replace the lost roosting site. Then Network Rail got in on the act and said the club would have to stump up £1 million to upgrade Great Coates Station to cope with the increased passenger usage, which was crazy as only the Barton Train stops there. It was a complete fiasco


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For those that are too young to have been there, B&Q were going to be the anchor tenant, along with other businesses, which would go a long way to funding it. Th resident of Great Coates formed an action group to fight it. There is a ruling that if a councillor watch a football team, they were deemed to have a vested interest, and could not take part in the planning process. Over half the council were barred from taking part since they all supported Town, which left the football hating half of the council to decide on the plans. They turned down the planning application, not understanding the importance of a football club to its community. This led to an outcry of fans, including death threats, the council suddenly realised their mistake and backtracked. After more to-ing and fro-ing, and wasted times, planning permission was granted, but the residents cried foul, and appealed to the Secretary of State He called it in for a public enquirery. By the time this concluded that planning permission could be granted, I seem to remember it was ten years, the whole thing had collapsed. B&Q had rebuilt their store, where it is now.

I firmly believe that the original plans were viable, and, if the council had the vision to grant it, it would have been built. We were in the 2nd tier of the football league at the time, what is now the championship, so who knows what we could have become, if it wasn't for the ineptitude of our council and the delaying tactics of the residents.  
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Maybe the councillors that voted understood the effect the stadium would have on the residents.
I hate the term nimbys,, it  is only used by those whose lives would not have been blighted by the development.
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Maybe the councillors that voted understood the effect the stadium would have on the residents.
I hate the term nimbys,, it  is only used by those whose lives would not have been blighted by the development.


What are the third, second and first person singular forms of the verb ‘to be a Nimby’

He/she is a NIMBY
You are a NIMBY
I am a citizen exercising my right to protect my interests


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Since you asked Realist, if you build anything, it is going to be near somebody. I defend the right of anybody to protest to protect their way of life. My bone of contention with the council is with the way they handled the whole affair. They clearly sided with the residents, and allowed every delaying tactic they could muster to delay and then delay it some more until it ran out of steam. What is interesting in the whole saga, is that the residents lost every single argument they could think of, but won the war. They played the council and twisted it around their little fingers, The council allowed every single objection, after the deadline for objections had passed, instead of growing a pair, and telling them the deadline had passed so they have had it. What was he point of having a deadline?
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Quoted from realist
Maybe the councillors that voted understood the effect the stadium would have on the residents.
I hate the term nimbys,, it  is only used by those whose lives would not have been blighted by the development.

Pretty sure I read somewhere that property prices increase in the area around a new stadium.

The residents of Great Coates lost out, fool them.





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Great Coates was "only" around 2001 or 2002 wasn't it?

I remember some talk about a new stadium near Morrisons off the A46 (Laceby Acres) back in 1994 as the club faced up to the impending Taylor Report deadlines.


From the GET

Great Coates

Before Peaks Parkway, there was Great Coates, and it was a saga that went on so long it forms an entire era of the Grimsby Town stadium story.

The wheels were first put in motion in the mid-1990s, but it wasn’t until the new millennium that wishful thinking began to look like it could be more than just a dream.

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Conoco Stadium, Great Coates

Since the mid-1990s the club has been pursuing a move to a new stadium elsewhere in the area. In the late 1990s the club submitted a planning application for a new stadium on the western outskirts of Grimsby at Great Coates, adjacent to the A180 dual carriageway.




I am sure it was announced in 1995 but as above the club didn't apply for planning permission till the late 90s. I think I still have the GET announcing it somewhere.

I also remember the club putting out a short video of the announcement and Bill Carr was the chairman at the time.
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Glad it fell through. Who the fook wants to go to Great Coates to watch the Mariners? Not me.


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Quoted from ginnywings
Glad it fell through. Who the fook wants to go to Great Coates to watch the Mariners? Not me.

Add Peaks Parkway to that as well, Freemo or the docks much better IMO.



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I mean there’s nothing to entice someone to live in Great Coates...a cut through to an industrial estate.

It would’ve been a excrement place to build the ground but you’d have thought it would’ve made great Coates more appealing...their shortsightedness was laughable.

Long term I think the decision has turned out to be a good one, albeit a waste of cash.


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