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jamesgtfc
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You obviously have some good info knowing he walked away 40 mins before signing. Please tell us more, as to why, and what was said and by who?



3 sides to every story but 1878's version of events is well documented. Unfortunately we can't place the truth somewhere in the middle because Tom Shutes hasn't given his version of events.
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Was fairly well documented at the time, and was mentioned by Stockwood on one of the various podcasts or interviews they did around the time of the takeover.


I wasn't aware of that and don't do podcasts. Thank you for the info.



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Whatever we think or  say about shutes and let’s face it none of us know his true intentions however he did bring Andrew and Jason together so for that we must be grateful
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I've lived in the Great Coates area most of my life.
I was never against the relocation to Great Coates, but believed then and do so know that it was/would be a terrible place for a football ground.
Just imagine turning up for a bit of championship football (Ok I know this is far fetched, just bear with me!). You sit down with your family and friends and tuck into your locally produced fish pie. There's a good away following (5000 Man Utd recently relegated). Then it begins......THAT smell. Anyone who works on the pyewipe, or visits the local recycling centre knows what I'm on about. On a good day it will just be the fish meal factory (which is bad enough), but on a bad day you also get the sewage works. The perfect storm of stink, drifts over the shiny new stadium at precisely 14.45. That fish pie suddenly becomes less appetising, the away chants begin and the lads training on the pitch begin to vomit.
Sounds far fetched, but believe me, despite their best efforts they still haven't been able to contain the smell, which can drift as far as Macaulay when the winds in the right direction. Criminal really that the local population have to put up with it.
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I've lived in the Great Coates area most of my life.
I was never against the relocation to Great Coates, but believed then and do so know that it was/would be a terrible place for a football ground.
Just imagine turning up for a bit of championship football (Ok I know this is far fetched, just bear with me!). You sit down with your family and friends and tuck into your locally produced fish pie. There's a good away following (5000 Man Utd recently relegated). Then it begins......THAT smell. Anyone who works on the pyewipe, or visits the local recycling centre knows what I'm on about. On a good day it will just be the fish meal factory (which is bad enough), but on a bad day you also get the sewage works. The perfect storm of stink, drifts over the shiny new stadium at precisely 14.45. That fish pie suddenly becomes less appetising, the away chants begin and the lads training on the pitch begin to vomit.
Sounds far fetched, but believe me, despite their best efforts they still haven't been able to contain the smell, which can drift as far as Macaulay when the winds in the right direction. Criminal really that the local population have to put up with it.


We must be lucky then, don't get that our end of the village (Woad Lane)



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Call me a conspiracy theorist but I reckon there's more to the Shutes saga.
The deal was stalling prior to Shutes leaving. I believe Shutes (the tyre kicker) and Fenty never saw eye to eye. Fenty was always keen to bad mouth Shutes and the mere fact Shutes was to be part of the consortium must have been soap in the mouth for our saviour Fenty.

Apart from Fenty's childish name calling, there is no evidence Shutes wants anything but positive things for North East Lincolnshire. Despite not ever living in the area he has been instrumental in bringing in government funds, the kids zone to the area, he has purchased the ice house with a view to create a community space. He's never engaged in petty name calling and been professional throughout. As others have mentioned he was instrumental in bringing Stockwood and Petit together. He's made no secret of wanting to develop a stadium on the docks, as a wider redevelopment for the area. Apart from being a successful property developer he is a well known philanthropist and socialist. Just maybe Shutes believed he could be far more effective working outside of the football club? Maybe Stockwood and Shutes privately believe the same? Lets hope so.
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Philanthropist, yes.

Socialist, no.
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Fenty’s open name calling of Shutes was flipping hilarious. How anyone believed anything Fenty ever said was baffling, then he starts childish name calling through his narcissistic, poorly written statements and the telewag.

Even if Stockwood and Petit fell out with Shutes, Shutes was part of the initial deal and brought everyone together. We’ll never know his true intentions but then we didn’t know Fenty’s true intentions until 10 years in to his woeful tenure and for another ten years folk swallowed it until is arrogance and greed led up the path to a criminal and ultimately his welcomed end as worst owner in GTFC history…

Whatever anyone’s view of Shutes, he’s already had a more positive impact on things locally than Fenty ever did.

That whole saga is done with for now though and it’s clear the current incumbents have a plan and strategy…let’s embrace that.

Great Coates is an awful place for a football ground. Even walking around the scarecrow festival yesterday…there isn’t even a shop…would be awful to go to an out of town stadium which we know aren’t great…


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Maybe the councillors that voted understood the effect the stadium would have on the residents.
I hate the term nimbys,, it  is only used by those whose lives would not have been blighted by the development.


The Residents whos rural way of life lived next to the pywipe industrial estate, had a railway line and a busy duel carriageway adjacent to their village which was and still is used as a rat run at shift change time from the nearby industry.
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Fenty’s open name calling of Shutes was flipping hilarious. How anyone believed anything Fenty ever said was baffling, then he starts childish name calling through his narcissistic, poorly written statements and the telewag.

Even if Stockwood and Petit fell out with Shutes, Shutes was part of the initial deal and brought everyone together. We’ll never know his true intentions but then we didn’t know Fenty’s true intentions until 10 years in to his woeful tenure and for another ten years folk swallowed it until is arrogance and greed led up the path to a criminal and ultimately his welcomed end as worst owner in GTFC history…

Whatever anyone’s view of Shutes, he’s already had a more positive impact on things locally than Fenty ever did.

That whole saga is done with for now though and it’s clear the current incumbents have a plan and strategy…let’s embrace that.

Great Coates is an awful place for a football ground. Even walking around the scarecrow festival yesterday…there isn’t even a shop…would be awful to go to an out of town stadium which we know aren’t great…


I had a walk around the village yesterday with the wife and kids. I don't realise how spoilt I've been I grew up a stones throw away from a block of shops in Cleethorpes and now I'm up near Yarborough Road I have a nice choice of shops within a short walk plus The Cricketers and Trawl.

Walking around the village you can hear the concrete carriageway which I think would get the better of me but most houses in the village seem to have a nice view of HSH Coldstores too.
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