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much as i agree with you i think he knows that morais and Hanson aren't able to give him 90 minutes - they need a bit of looking after at their age! Plus i think he feels that if we start with 2 relatively immobile players up front we are in danger of being over run at the other end (given that we cant even defend properly when we've got 11 players behind the ball!)
fwiw i'd start with the shop and payne who played up front together at Shrews and i'd play Harbegham who likewise played alongside Waterfall at the Imps. He also has to sort out Matete because it's been noticeable how he only seems to spark into life once Rose has disappeared. Maybe Coke would be abetter fit, especially if he is able to 'talk' Matete through the game. Adams and the Tunisian lad aren't doing enough for me, whereas lamy gave Orient a bit to think about last night. so you'd have a defence of Hendrie/Hewitt, Menayese, Waterfall and Harbergham, amidfield of Coke, Matete, Lamy & Morais plus the shop and payne up front
simple isn't it!
It's not when Rose goes off, it's when we go to 4-4-2. He's playing a holding role in that ridiculous formation, and he's not very good at it.
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If you just read Codalmighty today it sums up Hurst perfectly. You get the impression he feels we’re playing Barcelona every game, if that’s how his premature team talk goes there’s no wonder the players are so negative.
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I agree with you about integrity, I listened to what he said and last night his tone and words was just like Holloway's before he resigned. The modern words are 'it is what it is'.
The Harrogate game in his post match he said he thought his game plan was right, even though we lost. Crawley post he said Crawley played better football than us and we did a bit. I saw a dam good effort from Crawley and little of anything from Town. Last night he said we play better after the subs came on.
I really thought he was going to improve thing but his post match interviews are not inspiring. Win at Harrogate, played good football against Crawley and improved last night. What sort of mushrooms does he think we are. I used my eyes and saw nothing.
I was sucked in by Holloway like everybody and do not like what he did to the club in his and Fenty's reign. All I can see is the same thing with Hurst and his interview did not improve the situation. What I did expect was an apology and didn't get one.
Agree with all of this. I am actually feeling very despondent for the first time. However, I still maintain he isn't a bull sh**ter. I think he sounds genuinely perplexed as to how to move forward. Just because he didn't explicitly apologise doesn't mean he isn't sorry for the performance. Might be controversial, but I don't expect a manager to apologise for every poor performance.
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Negative manager negative football negative results.
Hurst stop being so cowardly and stubborn. Attack oppositions, goals win games if we concede 3 it doesn't matter if we score 4, theres no difference between losing 3-0 and 1-0 we get the same amount of points at the end and our goal difference is already so excrement it really wouldn't make a difference in the long run.
I couldn't give a excrement if theres a team in the league above us only playong one striker and getting results, we aren't and we don't look anything like getting a result until you've changed our shape on 60 minutes and we finally go 442 and actually attack oppositions.
We need points and having us set up to try and stop the opposition isn't doing that so how about being proactive and make oppositions think about what they have to do to stop us.
I've not been Hurst biggest fan (except when he was at Scunny) because of above and I know the saying defence win championships, but its the attackers who get you there so go out and ATTACK!
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Cant be @rsed to listen to it as I can see with my own eyes how bad we are. To be fair to Hurst it must be frustrating as well when watching last night , Payne, Bunney, Morais constantly just giving the ball up under no pressure just by sh!t passing over 5 - 10yds.
Our lack of us shape is down to him though, we defend like schoolboys, chase the ball and leave us man an awful lot, zero communication when 2 - 3 players are in close proximity ie; both going to the ball or both following the runner, we switch off as a unit when the ball is going forwards and ball watch, zero appreciation of positioning and lack of pre empting situations.
As a defensive minded coach he should have that buttoned down as a bare minimum...but we show no signs of improvement.
Is it his ability to coach or just the ability of our players that isnt good enough.....Or... both ??
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We knew exactly what we would be getting from Hurst second time around.
Unfortunately, along with the boring, unadventurous football, late subs when system clearly not working, dull press conferences, we have not got the desired results and wins.
The team seems unable to function. It is, by definition, a manager’s job anywhere to get the best from his available resources. If Hurst can’t and has no new ideas left to fix things then we are indeed stuffed. When his words admit this as such, we might as well take up another sport or pastime.
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Why is he setting us up so wrong! It’s as clear as daylight for us all watching.....I wish he would explain his selections, clearly he has to start with the team that finished last night but will he??
I hope he starts with the team that finished last night but without Bunney,would like to see either Habergham or Hendrie in there.
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much as i agree with you i think he knows that morais and Hanson aren't able to give him 90 minutes - they need a bit of looking after at their age! Plus i think he feels that if we start with 2 relatively immobile players up front we are in danger of being over run at the other end (given that we cant even defend properly when we've got 11 players behind the ball!)
fwiw i'd start with the shop and payne who played up front together at Shrews and i'd play Harbegham who likewise played alongside Waterfall at the Imps. He also has to sort out Matete because it's been noticeable how he only seems to spark into life once Rose has disappeared. Maybe Coke would be abetter fit, especially if he is able to 'talk' Matete through the game. Adams and the Tunisian lad aren't doing enough for me, whereas lamy gave Orient a bit to think about last night. so you'd have a defence of Hendrie/Hewitt, Menayese, Waterfall and Harbergham, amidfield of Coke, Matete, Lamy & Morais plus the shop and payne up front
simple isn't it!
Having learnt a lot last night, I'm not far off what you're thinking.. I'd play a back four of Hendrie, Pollock, Menayese and Habergham.. Tell Mattie to be brave and push right up as he has a quicker partner with him. Sick of seeing Waterfall so deep that he's trying to boom the ball fifty yards to our forward or wide players. At fault for the goal too. Ball watching again. If you took his heading ability away his attributes are no more than National League North. Wished Hurst had have played Hewitt at centre back instead so we could have played higher than we did. Bunney isn't working at all, we had zero down the left and Hendrie has to come in because Hewitt was just as bad as his full back partner last night. As others have said, Rose and Matete don't work as a partnership, so I'd risk a two in a central midfield of Matete and El Mizouni. I really like both of them, both can beat a man, and the extra space and responsibility could suit them better. Morais and Lamy the wide men, Adams was a no show last night. And even though Payne was poor, he was isolated up front, so I'd give him and LJL the two places up top rekindling their old partnership, and if needed, have Hanson in reserve from half time onwards if things weren't going our way. If something like this doesn't work, then I'm truly out of ideas..
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Thing is hurst cares about this club imo and Holloway didnt give a t0ss, i hope he comes up with some kind of miracle because i genuinely would want no one more than Paul hurst to keep us up.
Thing is this team is mainly his and in general the buck does stop with him but to compare him to Holloway is criminal, Paul hurst isn't a joker or a fraud he's a bloke doing his best to keep us up but imo he needs to realise playing negative ain't gonna do it.
I hope he pulls it off but in all honesty the damage has been done.
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Agree with all of this. I am actually feeling very despondent for the first time.
However, I still maintain he isn't a bull sh**ter. I think he sounds genuinely perplexed as to how to move forward. Just because he didn't explicitly apologise doesn't mean he isn't sorry for the performance. Might be controversial, but I don't expect a manager to apologise for every poor performance.
I agree that a manager should not apologise for every poor performance, and I cannot see why he should. Rub of the pitch, unexpected injury, bad ref decision etc.. What does get to me is game after game after game. We can all see he has got it wrong, selection, balance, tactics etc. Nothing is working for him and he should have the guts to apologise. It's not a big deal, we are make decisions and mainly most people get them right and when wrong most apologise. It is his job to sort out Towns problems and he hasn't. He was brought in to make sure we stay in the league and he created a new team in; tactics, motivation (have seen much of that) is all down to him. At some stage he has to man up and accept the responsibility he has. To me it's very simple if he cannot do any of the above then he's giving us bullsh!t, a different type to Holloways but the end result is crap; and you don't need bog roll to wipe it.
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