Hursts Interview

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Bloke sounds very despondent
Think he knows we’re copulated. And the buck rests at his door ultimately.

Personally can see him resigning once relegation is confirmed.

So he said the first half was bad, but he did make any changes at half time. That has to be the most depressing piece of waffle I have heard in ages.

His tone was despondent and gave us no hope for the future. He should have the guts to resign. You can't say that he was been honest because he has been found out to be nothing more than a bull sh!tter just like Holloway.

Not sure PH is a bullshitter at all DB. I actually find him extremely honest if stubborn. Holloway was a gobshite crook

Quoted from Hagrid

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Bloke sounds very despondent
Think he knows we’re copulated. And the buck rests at his door ultimately.

He may not be getting it right so far in turning our fortunes around but to say that the buck rests at his door for us being copulated this season I think is a bit generous to Fenty and Runaway (who are both the main culprits) with the latter flipping off when he realised that was the case.

he sounded shell shocked and despondent.
damning indictment of the players - not giving 100%, failure to pass to each other, poor decision making, poor positioning , not enough caring or showing enough on the pitch
wouldn't be surprised to see him go with the finishing XI on Saturday (not that i think it will matter very much!)

Quoted from forza ivano

he sounded shell shocked and despondent.
damning indictment of the players - not giving 100%, failure to pass to each other, poor decision making, poor positioning , not enough caring or showing enough on the pitch
wouldn't be surprised to see him go with the finishing XI on Saturday (not that i think it will matter very much!)

Agreed

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Personally can see him resigning once relegation is confirmed.

With respect Meza why would Hurst resign early into his 18 month contract, the only way he will go is if he get's sacked then he will have to be paid off.

Hurst probably believed he could perform a miracle and keep us up. He himself desperately needed (needs) managerial capital and would use his spell here to rebuild his career and reputation.

Unfortunately for all involved it’s been a major intercourse up. He sounds despondent because his career is slipping away from him. He genuinely seems at a loss what he needs to do. He knows any honeymoon period is over and the pressure must be immense. For all his faults, I genuinely believe he won’t want the  work and success of the promotion to be undone. For all these reasons Hurst will desperately want to save us from the impending drop.

Let’s not forget the real and overarching reason why we are in this situation.

Quoted from Hagrid

Not sure PH is a bullshitter at all DB. I actually find him extremely honest if stubborn. Holloway was a gobshite crook

I can only say what I feel. He comes in calls it a mess and does nothing to improve it. He told us the Harrogate game went to his game plan and we lost. In tonight's interview he could say very little but waffle. He could have said tell the fans I got it wrong, the players did as I asked like last week. And then 6 little words that would have meant something   I AM SORRY IT'S MY FAULT.
He now playing for time knowing it's running out. Fair doo's he took up the challenge but has failed. If he goes quick we may be able to survive. Who with ? Cowlley Brothers for me.

It’s taken him 2 months to figure that out.
If there not performing release them on a free transfer no one will take any of the idiots.
Eventually you have a team that try and how can a pro footballer not pass a ball it’s incredible.

If lock down is eased we can get in the ground for the last few games i think the players might have a shock then.

Quoted from promotion plaice

With respect Meza why would Hurst resign early into his 18 month contract, the only way he will go is if he get's sacked then he will have to be paid off.

That will get him the hat trick.

A relegation from EFL on your cv isn’t good for future employment lol

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

A relegation from EFL on your cv isn’t good for future employment lol

Another reason Holloway jumped ship

Quoted from DB

So he said the first half was bad, but he did make any changes at half time. That has to be the most depressing piece of waffle I have heard in ages.

His tone was despondent and gave us no hope for the future. He should have the guts to resign. You can't say that he was been honest because he has been found out to be nothing more than a bull sh!tter just like Holloway.

Very unfair to compare him with IH. Whatever the outcome of this season, he has more integrity in his little finger than IH.

He sounds despondent, but doesnt he always, the man has no motivational skills whatsoever.

Quoted from Azimuth

He sounds despondent, but doesnt he always, the man has no motivational skills whatsoever.

Yeah course he doesnt. Disley, pearson need i go on, all said best they’ve played under

Quoted from DB

So he said the first half was bad, but he did make any changes at half time. That has to be the most depressing piece of waffle I have heard in ages.

His tone was despondent and gave us no hope for the future. He should have the guts to resign. You can't say that he was been honest because he has been found out to be nothing more than a bull sh!tter just like Holloway.

This is what I don't understand. The first half was bad, and ended with them fairly on top. First 5 minutes of the 2nd half they were clearly the dominant team. Why take another 15 minutes to change it?

I like Hurst and thought he'd turn us around, but I just don't understand his decisions. Bunney over Habergham makes no sense. El Mizouni is a luxury. Matete is better going forwards and plays him defensively. Hewitt is never in the right back position. A big guy up front on his own is isolated. All of these things are his choice and not what he was lumbered with. I'd actually prefer Holloway right now

Unfortunately Hurst’s own career has been in free fall as much as our own fortunes, this was his hour of need along with ours.

It doesn’t seem to be panning out for either of us, Hurst has a negative style of play in which we try to keep shape and don’t take many risks in hope of not conceding and nicking a goal the other end.
Tonight we made a team that was 23rd in form table look like a promotion winning side, the way they knocked it about our final third and attacked in numbers was good to watch if you were an Orient fan.
Hurst’s nature as a stubborn, dour man doesn’t lead me into thinking he will suddenly become cavalier and try to take games by the scruff of the neck and therefore we will continue to set up not to concede both at home and away and probably fail 9/10 times.
I never wanted Hurst back but could see why he was an option after the clown who preceded him but it appears nothing will save this doomed ship from sailing into the non league abyss.

I can't stand to even listen to him on the radio he's so dull so can you imagine his team talks

Quoted from Simon

I can't stand to even listen to him on the radio he's so dull so can you imagine his team talks

Grow up. Rather Hurst than blabbermouth Bullshit Holloway. bottom licking Bignot.

Depressing listening. It reminds me of the later Holloway interviews, but without the eccentric phrases.

In both cases the manager seems at a loss to understand why the players are not performing. Sounds like a guy with the right questions but no answers.

I agree that he gives the impression that he thinks we are going down.

Quoted from Hagrid

Grow up. Rather Hurst than blabbermouth Bullshit Holloway. bottom licking Bignot.

Who the fcuk are you telling to grow up!!!

He's the most dull bloke i have ever listened to & totally clueless

On a human level I feel sorry for the guy. But football is a results business and it's down to the manager to turn it round. He knows that he will be sacked if he doesn't and he knew what he was getting himself into.

From that interview he sounds like he is just about at his wits end. He has signed a load of new players, but they are not delivering. He sounds as frustrated as we are.

This is not going to end well for him, or for us.

Quoted from RonMariner

On a human level I feel sorry for the guy. But football is a results business and it's down to the manager to turn it round. He knows that he will be sacked if he doesn't and he knew what he was getting himself into.

From that interview he sounds like he is just about at his wits end. He has signed a load of new players, but they are not delivering. He sounds as frustrated as we are.

This is not going to end well for him, or for us.

He sounded like he knew that he was heading for the wilderness of non league again. Probably thinking what the hell happened from Championship with Ipswich to here.  I can see us being more like a Chesterfield in the future. Dispiriting for us all including him.

Let's see if the subs start on Saturday seeing he said They showed that they wanted to be out there and they did make a difference.

The subs will make no difference if he starts them in an 8-1-1 formation again, they only looked decent because they were allowed to attack rather than all sit within 30 yrds of their own goal line all game.

Why is he setting us up so wrong! It’s as clear as daylight for us all watching.....I wish he would explain his selections, clearly he has to start with the team that finished last night but will he??

Quoted from smokey111

Very unfair to compare him with IH. Whatever the outcome of this season, he has more integrity in his little finger than IH.

I agree with you about integrity, I listened to what he said and last night his tone and words was just like Holloway's before he resigned. The modern words are 'it is what it is'.

The Harrogate game in his post match he said he thought his game plan was right, even though we lost. Crawley post he said Crawley played better football than us and we did a bit. I saw a dam good effort from Crawley and little of anything from Town. Last night he said we play better after the subs came on.

I really thought he was going to improve thing but his post match interviews are not inspiring. Win at Harrogate, played good football against Crawley and improved last night. What sort of mushrooms does he think we are. I used my eyes and saw nothing.

I was sucked in by Holloway like everybody and do not like what he did to the club in his and Fenty's reign. All I can see is the same thing with Hurst and his interview did not improve the situation. What I did expect was an apology and didn't get one.

Quoted from oochiad

Why is he setting us up so wrong! It’s as clear as daylight for us all watching.....I wish he would explain his selections, clearly he has to start with the team that finished last night but will he??

much as i agree with you i think he knows that morais and Hanson aren't able to give him 90 minutes - they need a bit of looking after at their age! Plus i think he feels that if we start with 2 relatively immobile players up front we are in danger of being over run at the other end (given that we cant even defend properly when we've got 11 players behind the ball!)

fwiw i'd start with the shop and payne who played up front together at Shrews and i'd play Harbegham who likewise played alongside Waterfall at the Imps.
He also has to sort out Matete because it's been noticeable how he only seems to spark into life once Rose has disappeared. Maybe Coke would be abetter fit, especially if he is able to 'talk' Matete through the game.
Adams and the Tunisian lad aren't doing enough for me, whereas lamy gave Orient a bit to think about last night.
so you'd have a defence of Hendrie/Hewitt, Menayese, Waterfall and Harbergham, amidfield of Coke, Matete, Lamy & Morais plus the shop and payne up front

simple isn't it!

Quoted from forza ivano

much as i agree with you i think he knows that morais and Hanson aren't able to give him 90 minutes - they need a bit of looking after at their age! Plus i think he feels that if we start with 2 relatively immobile players up front we are in danger of being over run at the other end (given that we cant even defend properly when we've got 11 players behind the ball!)

fwiw i'd start with the shop and payne who played up front together at Shrews and i'd play Harbegham who likewise played alongside Waterfall at the Imps.
He also has to sort out Matete because it's been noticeable how he only seems to spark into life once Rose has disappeared. Maybe Coke would be abetter fit, especially if he is able to 'talk' Matete through the game.
Adams and the Tunisian lad aren't doing enough for me, whereas lamy gave Orient a bit to think about last night.
so you'd have a defence of Hendrie/Hewitt, Menayese, Waterfall and Harbergham, amidfield of Coke, Matete, Lamy & Morais plus the shop and payne up front

simple isn't it!

It's not when Rose goes off, it's when we go to 4-4-2. He's playing a holding role in that ridiculous formation, and he's not very good at it.

If you just read Codalmighty today it sums up Hurst perfectly. You get the impression he feels we’re playing Barcelona every game, if that’s how his premature team talk goes there’s no wonder the players are so negative.

Quoted from DB

I agree with you about integrity, I listened to what he said and last night his tone and words was just like Holloway's before he resigned. The modern words are 'it is what it is'.

The Harrogate game in his post match he said he thought his game plan was right, even though we lost. Crawley post he said Crawley played better football than us and we did a bit. I saw a dam good effort from Crawley and little of anything from Town. Last night he said we play better after the subs came on.

I really thought he was going to improve thing but his post match interviews are not inspiring. Win at Harrogate, played good football against Crawley and improved last night. What sort of mushrooms does he think we are. I used my eyes and saw nothing.

I was sucked in by Holloway like everybody and do not like what he did to the club in his and Fenty's reign. All I can see is the same thing with Hurst and his interview did not improve the situation. What I did expect was an apology and didn't get one.

Agree with all of this. I am actually feeling very despondent for the first time.

However, I still maintain he isn't a bull sh**ter. I think he sounds genuinely perplexed as to how to move forward. Just because he didn't explicitly apologise doesn't mean he isn't sorry for the performance. Might be controversial, but I don't expect a manager to apologise for every poor performance.

Negative manager negative football negative results.

Hurst stop being so cowardly and stubborn. Attack oppositions, goals win games if we concede 3 it doesn't matter if we score 4, theres no difference between losing 3-0 and 1-0 we get the same amount of points at the end and our goal difference is already so excrement it really wouldn't make a  difference in the long run.

I couldn't give a excrement if theres a team in the league above us only playong one striker and getting results, we aren't and we don't look anything like getting a result until you've changed our shape on 60 minutes and  we finally go 442 and actually attack oppositions.

We need points and having us set up to try and stop the opposition isn't doing that so how about being proactive and make oppositions think about what they have to do to stop us.

I've not been Hurst biggest fan (except when he was at Scunny) because of above and I know the saying defence win championships, but its the attackers who get you there so go out and ATTACK!

Sorry rant over

Cant be @rsed to listen to it as I can see with my own eyes how bad we are.
To be fair to Hurst it must be frustrating as well when watching last night , Payne, Bunney, Morais constantly just giving the ball up under no pressure just by sh!t passing over 5 - 10yds.

Our lack of us shape is down to him though, we defend like schoolboys, chase the ball and leave us man an awful lot,   zero communication when 2 - 3 players are in close proximity ie;  both going to the ball or both following the runner, we switch off as a unit when the ball is going forwards and ball watch, zero appreciation of positioning and lack of pre empting situations.

As a defensive minded coach he should have that buttoned down as a bare minimum...but we show no signs of improvement.  

Is it his ability to coach or just the ability of our players that isnt good enough.....Or... both ??

We knew exactly what we would be getting from Hurst second time around.

Unfortunately, along with the boring, unadventurous football, late subs when system clearly not working, dull press conferences, we have not got the desired results and wins.

The team seems unable to function.  It is, by definition, a manager’s job anywhere to get the best from his available resources.  If Hurst can’t and has no new ideas left to fix things then we are indeed stuffed.  When his words admit this as such,  we might as well take up another sport or pastime.

Quoted from oochiad

Why is he setting us up so wrong! It’s as clear as daylight for us all watching.....I wish he would explain his selections, clearly he has to start with the team that finished last night but will he??

I hope he starts with the team that finished last night but without Bunney,would like to see either Habergham or Hendrie in there.

Quoted from forza ivano

much as i agree with you i think he knows that morais and Hanson aren't able to give him 90 minutes - they need a bit of looking after at their age! Plus i think he feels that if we start with 2 relatively immobile players up front we are in danger of being over run at the other end (given that we cant even defend properly when we've got 11 players behind the ball!)

fwiw i'd start with the shop and payne who played up front together at Shrews and i'd play Harbegham who likewise played alongside Waterfall at the Imps.
He also has to sort out Matete because it's been noticeable how he only seems to spark into life once Rose has disappeared. Maybe Coke would be abetter fit, especially if he is able to 'talk' Matete through the game.
Adams and the Tunisian lad aren't doing enough for me, whereas lamy gave Orient a bit to think about last night.
so you'd have a defence of Hendrie/Hewitt, Menayese, Waterfall and Harbergham, amidfield of Coke, Matete, Lamy & Morais plus the shop and payne up front

simple isn't it!

Having learnt a lot last night, I'm not far off what you're thinking..

I'd play a back four of Hendrie, Pollock, Menayese and Habergham..

Tell Mattie to be brave and push right up as he has a quicker partner with him. Sick of seeing Waterfall so deep that he's trying to boom the ball fifty yards to our forward or wide players. At fault for the goal too. Ball watching again. If you took his heading ability away his attributes are no more than National League North. Wished Hurst had have played Hewitt at centre back instead so we could have played higher than we did. Bunney isn't working at all, we had zero down the left and Hendrie has to come in because Hewitt was just as bad as his full back partner last night.

As others have said, Rose and Matete don't work as a partnership, so I'd risk a two in a central midfield of Matete and El Mizouni. I really like both of them, both can beat a man, and the extra space and responsibility could suit them better.

Morais and Lamy the wide men, Adams was a no show last night.

And even though Payne was poor, he was isolated up front, so I'd give him and LJL the two places up top rekindling their old partnership, and if needed, have Hanson in reserve from half time onwards if things weren't going our way.

If something like this doesn't work, then I'm truly out of ideas..

Thing is hurst cares about this club imo and Holloway didnt give a t0ss, i hope he comes up with some kind of miracle because i genuinely would want no one more than Paul hurst to keep us up.

Thing is this team is mainly his and in general the buck does stop with him but to compare him to Holloway is criminal, Paul hurst isn't a joker or a fraud he's a bloke doing his best to keep us up but imo he needs to realise playing negative ain't gonna do it.

I hope he pulls it off but in all honesty the damage has been done.

Quoted from smokey111

Agree with all of this. I am actually feeling very despondent for the first time.

However, I still maintain he isn't a bull sh**ter. I think he sounds genuinely perplexed as to how to move forward. Just because he didn't explicitly apologise doesn't mean he isn't sorry for the performance. Might be controversial, but I don't expect a manager to apologise for every poor performance.

I agree that a manager should not apologise for every poor performance, and I cannot see why he should. Rub of the pitch, unexpected injury, bad ref decision etc.. What does get to me is game after game after game. We can all see he has got it wrong, selection, balance, tactics etc. Nothing is working for him and he should have the guts to apologise. It's not a big deal, we are make decisions and mainly most people get them right and when wrong most apologise.

It is his job to sort out Towns problems and he hasn't. He was brought in to make sure we stay in the league and he created a new team in; tactics, motivation (have seen much of that) is all down to him. At some stage he has to man up and accept the responsibility he has.

To me it's very simple if he cannot do any of the above then he's giving us bullsh!t, a different type to Holloways but the end result is crap; and you don't need bog roll to wipe it.

Hurst pointed out in his interview that certain players weren't giving their all.

Oh how we miss Shaun Pearson, should never have got rid of him.

May he should ask the players why  they are so bad  never mind the tactics but when they can't even pass the ball to each other

Quoted from promotion plaice

Hurst pointed out in his interview that certain players weren't giving their all.

Oh how we miss Shaun Pearson, should never have got rid of him.

I'm sorry to state the obvious but it's his job to make sure they do every time they cross the line.

Nah it's not.  

He can do all the prep in the world but he can't control them once they cross over that white line.  

He can drill into them his tactics and prepare them the best he can.  By all means lets hang him out to dry on his poor tactics in recent games.  But any player not giving his everything, that's on the individual and their professional pride.  Hurst can, of course, pull them up on it and you would hope they either get a rocket post-game and/or don't play again.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Nah it's not.  

He can do all the prep in the world but he can't control them once they cross over that white line.  

He can drill into them his tactics and prepare them the best he can.  By all means lets hang him out to dry on his poor tactics in recent games.  But any player not giving his everything, that's on the individual and their professional pride.  Hurst can, of course, pull them up on it and you would hope they either get a rocket post-game and/or don't play again.

Went down Cheapside yesterday and it was empty. As Tuesday performance was rubbish, and that's a compliment, and listening to Hurts interview I expected to see them there. Obviously they would be too tired to run, and if they were????, they could been made to watch the drivel they showed on Tuesday, at Harrogate and the Crawley game.

A previous poster told me Wednesday was their day off, but has they've had 3 weeks of I can see no reason for them not turning up.

Quoted from DB

Went down Cheapside yesterday and it was empty. As Tuesday performance was rubbish, and that's a compliment, and listening to Hurts interview I expected to see them there. Obviously they would be too tired to run, and if they were????, they could been made to watch the drivel they showed on Tuesday, at Harrogate and the Crawley game.

A previous poster told me Wednesday was their day off, but has they've had 3 weeks of I can see no reason for them not turning up.

Nobody on the pitch at Cheapside yesterday? Weird that. I wonder if they were doing anything on Tuesday evening that meant they weren't having a full day of standard training the next day?

Quoted from diehardmariner

Nah it's not.  

He can do all the prep in the world but he can't control them once they cross over that white line.  

He can drill into them his tactics and prepare them the best he can.  By all means lets hang him out to dry on his poor tactics in recent games.  But any player not giving his everything, that's on the individual and their professional pride.  Hurst can, of course, pull them up on it and you would hope they either get a rocket post-game and/or don't play again.

That will mean he will have to go back to picking some of Holloway's squad then?

Quoted from DB

Went down Cheapside yesterday and it was empty. As Tuesday performance was rubbish, and that's a compliment, and listening to Hurts interview I expected to see them there. Obviously they would be too tired to run, and if they were????, they could been made to watch the drivel they showed on Tuesday, at Harrogate and the Crawley game.

A previous poster told me Wednesday was their day off, but has they've had 3 weeks of I can see no reason for them not turning up.

Is this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwk38srACrA

Quoted from DB

I agree that a manager should not apologise for every poor performance, and I cannot see why he should. Rub of the pitch, unexpected injury, bad ref decision etc.. What does get to me is game after game after game. We can all see he has got it wrong, selection, balance, tactics etc. Nothing is working for him and he should have the guts to apologise. It's not a big deal, we are make decisions and mainly most people get them right and when wrong most apologise.

It is his job to sort out Towns problems and he hasn't. He was brought in to make sure we stay in the league and he created a new team in; tactics, motivation (have seen much of that) is all down to him. At some stage he has to man up and accept the responsibility he has.

To me it's very simple if he cannot do any of the above then he's giving us bullsh!t, a different type to Holloways but the end result is crap; and you don't need bog roll to wipe it.

DB, you used to be so positive, win every game etc.

Are you OK?

Quoted from Son of Cod

Nobody on the pitch at Cheapside yesterday? Weird that. I wonder if they were doing anything on Tuesday evening that meant they weren't having a full day of standard training the next day?

They didn't do anything on the pitch apart from turn up otherwise their wouldn't be so many comments about how bad they were. What exactly did they do to be praised? When you played as bad as they did they don't deserve a day off, as I posted they have had 3 weeks off. Their are many occasions when teams have had to go in on Sundays for extra training and Tuesday game was certainly one of them.

Quoted from arryarryarry

DB, you used to be so positive, win every game etc.

Are you OK?

Don't worry it's Friday tomorrow, normal positives and optimism will resume. Just peed of with Tuesdays excrement which some thought was a game not to be criticised.