How many more games for Hurst.!

Quoted from HarrogateMariner

I'm sorry but I disagree with the majority- of course he should not get sacked on Tuesday if we loose but should we get relegated he has to go. He has been able to bring a whole new squad in and had plenty of time. I still feel we have some good players from the Jolley era that he has not got on board and/or playing to their potential.

And importantly we hopefully will have a new board in place irrespective of which league we are in. It will be a fresh start and we will need everyone together. If we have a manager in place who splits the fan base it's not a great start.  So yes we go down he has to go. Of course we stay up he is a hero and should stay. That is the reality.

Completely fair comment imho..

I just wish he'd start picking starting elevens without Waterfall and Hanson in it.

I truly believe these two's dominating influence on the team and its style of play are holding others back..

Quoted from Vance Warner

So Hurst is getting the blame for not being able to attract amazing players to town when we’re near the bottom of league 2. The suggestion that he’s had the equivalent of a pre season when we’ve had games coming thick and fast is a joke. So is the idea that we’ll get relegated and remove an manager who has experience of getting us promoted from the conference already. We’ll bring someone else in who will sign their own players, any advantage from parachute payments will be lost and we’ll sink like a stone. Still those who get a kick out of slagging off players and managers will have plenty of new targets.

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We've been near the bottom of League Two or worse for nearly twenty years. The outside perception of our club has been shot to pieces. This period is now a seventh of our complete history. It can only be turned around by a fully funded infrastructure project that players can buy into. The rot has well and truly set in. It's been an horrific decline in club standing within the football pyramid and its followers..

Quoted from Bigdog

Completely fair comment imho..

I just wish he'd start picking starting elevens without Waterfall and Hanson in it.

I truly believe these two's dominating influence on the team and its style of play are holding others back..

You do realise the side is at the bottom of L2?

The last manager’s efforts at expansive footie and playing it out from the back with inadequate players went well didn’t it? I am with you in being anti-lump it but we have a manager whose middle name is Pragmatic. If anything we should be trying to get the ball out of our box and into theirs even quicker. I hate it but maybe missing out midfield and winning the second and third ball is our best bet with the players we have.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Hurst won’t be sacked.
Today’s set of results have made no material difference, except our goal difference compared to Colchester is two better than yesterday
February was always going to be a tough month.
The important thing is to get plenty of points in March, starting Tuesday

Aren't we a further point adrift of Southend?

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

You do realise the side is at the bottom of L2?

The last manager’s efforts at expansive footie and playing it out from the back with inadequate players went well didn’t it? I am with you in being anti-lump it but we have a manager whose middle name is Pragmatic. If anything we should be trying to get the ball out of our box and into theirs even quicker. I hate it but maybe missing out midfield and winning the second and third ball is our best bet with the players we have.

Bottom of League Two, so we should play like a team from the 80s on Ploggers? Just like all teams that eventually get relegated do by resorting to ancient old desperation tactics?

The best players we've got in the squad are most probably the midfielders and you want to miss them out?

Waterfall is playing shite and Hanson is playing shite. Both immobile, We need added mobilty more than anything else, whether it's playing football or being pragmatic. Defence higher up the pitch and more forward passing options than directly to the big man because he can't run..

Still think with the squad we've got the way to go is a central midfield three with Adams, Morais, Wright or even Scannell wherever he is more advanced out wide to support Payne or LJL up top..

Still think Hurst will not get us relegated, it will be tight, but somehow it will come good (just)

It's fair to point out that Holloway's side did indeed pick up enough points here and there to keep us out of the bottom two, however our trajectory from mid-October (when we lost at home to Harrogate, when Edwards got injured) was clear to see.

Our FA Cup defeat to Dagenham was depressing, and then we followed that up with a 5-0 defeat at Tranmere.

Even when we won, we were far from convincing. We scraped wins against Scunny and Barrow, and the win at Crawley only came after we went behind early on (conceding early goals was a feature of Holloway's tenure).

The only times this season we've looked anything other than average to abysmal was in the win at Cheltenham and in fits and starts against Orient.

The bare facts are that we've lost 6 of Hurst's 8 games in charge, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. If Hurst hadn't tried to change personnel when we'd been so chronically dull and goal shy, he'd have been criticised (in fact he was for continuing to play Matt Green).

He's tried to change it — not because he wanted to, but because he had to. Stick with what we had, and we were going down. Twist, and maybe we'd have a chance of staying up.

The 'twist' hasn't paid off either, as things stand right now. It's shown signs that it might (first half v Newport; the win on Tuesday night) but, once more, it's slim pickings.

I also just want to dispel this myth that Hurst played for 1-0s in non-league.

We never had any problems scoring under his stewardship first time round. We always had really useful (if not great) strikers at the club who could bag plenty, and as limited as LJL is, Hurst got a great goalscoring season out of him. We won by some pretty big margins (I seem to remember us scoring 7 v Stockport, Halifax and Alfreton; 6 against Gateshead and 5 against a few teams too.

At the start of the 15/16 season we scored 21 goals in our first 9 games, scoring 4 on 3 occasions. A few games later we scored another 4 at Southport and 7 against Halifax.

I'm not claiming Hurst is some sort of secret and under-appreciated attacking guru, just that this label of being negative (Parslow Point) came back to bite him far less than we like to remember. But those are the memories that stick, evidently — not the 5-0 win over Altrincham, or the 4-0 and 4-3 wins over Aldershot, or the 4-1 win over Bromley, or the 4-0 win at Woking...

Even when we were back in the league, we had Bogle finding the back of the net regularly. Hurst may be displaying some negative tendencies right now, which, given the context, may be down to a lack of confidence in the players he inherited, and not having a pre-season to work with the players he's since signed.

It's really harsh to judge him on these eight games alone. Naturally we're all disappointed and frustrated at how they've played out, but whether we like the bloke or we dislike him for cupping his ear, losing 1-0 home to Braintree, etc, we know he can build a squad with good characters and decent strikers.

Circumstances created by Fenty, Day, Holloway, etc means he's being made to work with one hand tied behind his back. I'm desperate for him to succeed because that'll mean we stay up.

I'm sure he's already looking back and wondering if he should have done certain things differently, but we as a club are bleeding badly and we just don't have enough plasters. We need a Jolley-esque turn-around now; not beyond the realms of possibility, but given that we've tried every single type of manager (young, old, ex-Premier League) and none of them have had any success, Hurst is realistically our best bet for this situation right now.

He might not save us, and he should take a slice of the blame given the amount of games he's had to turn it around, but let's keep the criticism of him fair and in the context of what's come before.

Quoted from Garth

Still think Hurst will not get us relegated, it will be tight, but somehow it will come good (just)

I didn't think Grimsby Town would be relegated this season. Even though I've never been a fan of Hurst since he went solo I thought he'd have enough to keep you up, particularly after being allowed to bring in so many last month. Now I cannot see you avoiding relegation. I can't see two teams or even one team in a worse state than Grimsby Town.
Colchester United are in a mess but it will depend on Wayne Brown's ability to improve them.
Barrow's supporters seem optimistic now that Rob Kelly is back in charge.
Southend are playing well and picking up points.
Stevenage have been consistently getting enough decent results throughout the season.
And that's that. Surely Port Vale, Scunny and Walsall are out of reach. The only chink of light is that my predictions, as some on here might recollect, are often spectacularly wrong.

Yesterday was one of the reasons I didn't want the bloke back, worrying more about what the opposition will do rather than concentrating on what we should be doing to win the game.

Having said that, he's here now so we have to support him and hope for the best.
If we are relegated I definitely don't want him in charge, it took him six years last time I don't want that again.

For now in PH we have to trust UTM

Quoted from pen penfras

Holloway didn't have his team in the relegation zone, and Hurst came in and dispirited the whole squad further by saying he wanted 8 new players.

I thought Hurst would come in and rebuild squad morale and get the best out of them whilst adding a few better players. So far it's been worse than it was before. I'm hopeful he turns it around, but Hurst is not at all free from blame if we go down.

Hadn't Holloway already started "dispiriting" the team, moving players on without telling them, dissing them in the media and saying he needed half a team in the window?