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September 25, 2020, 6:37pm
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You could see them arguing for 2 relegation places though, and we can't criticise too much as that's what our division has!


Yes I am sure they would argue for things to go in their favour, but I think promotion and relegation will always be a part of football including the top flight.

Who would watch, say, Championship football knowing they could never reach the PL or indeed have the excitement of avoiding a relegation battle?

Lets put it this way - if any division is a closed shop that will be the day I stop watching any type of pro football after more than 60 years!
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Yes I am sure they would argue for things to go in their favour, but I think promotion and relegation will always be a part of football including the top flight.

Who would watch, say, Championship football knowing they could never reach the PL or indeed have the excitement of avoiding a relegation battle?

Lets put it this way - if any division is a closed shop that will be the day I stop watching any type of pro football after more than 60 years!


100%. No matter how shít Town are at any point in time, there’s always the idea that one day, one day we could be mixing it in the top flight. In theory, there is nothing stopping us from winning the Premier League. From winning the Champions League. The odds are almost impossibly small, and yet it’s possible.

In 1998, we found ourselves a division above Man City. In 1998 we beat Bournemouth at Wembley. In 2016 we found ourselves finally dragging ourselves out of the cesspit of non-league. That same year, Leicester City won the Premier League. Fortunes can, and do change.

Unpredictable things happen in football. That’s the beauty of it. Of course, the idea of Town ever getting close to the top flight, let alone Europe, is fanciful. The point is, it’s ‘possible’. Take that away, and you kill the spirit of lower league football.

If we accept a closed shop at the top level we don’t save the football league, we merely put it on palliative care.


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Just listened to an interview with Rick Parry on the wireless and he talked through some interesting stuff and despite the continuous ineptitude of the organisation he heads he seemed to understand the bigger picture.

He didn’t say it but eluded to the Championship being the biggest problem/concern with over 100% of gate receipts going on players wages. A collective number but a telling stat!

He also spoke about clubs that are owner funded in that on a regular basis one Director pays the bills and they are dependent on that individuals good will and deep pockets.

We’ve all been p1ssed off at various times about the evident lack of investment and penny pinching but ironically the “self sufficiency” legacy that JF has given us may just see us through.

The main things I came away with was....

- This will be the trigger to the Prem taking the Championship as their 2nd tier, this could be the only route of survival for the professional pyramid.

- In the context of the money Boris is throwing around it’s a relatively small amount to save L1 & L2, but these clubs are important to communities and history tells us the Tories don’t give a fcuk about that.

- The government has delayed supporters coming back as they’ve only got last week’s trials to go on, which means this is going to be a long haul.

Good article but the main thing that I was left with is day by day clubs at all levels of the EFL and below are buggered.


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every top flight club will want to join a European super league that will be much Akin to how the NFL is. Clubs ‘could’ become franchises and the soul and The heart of the the game Is lost. For every Man Utd v Liverpool or real v Barca there is a Brighton v Burnley or elche v Cadiz. The later games may not Be  important to many but, it is to the supporters of the clubs and those that are employed by the club.

Until a ‘supporter’ has experienced the lows of supporting a club, they can’t dream about the highs that can be achieved.



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If you get rid of relegation you have to invent a (usually elaborate) post season to keep the interest of at least some fans until the last few weeks of the season.


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I can't see them trying to remove relegation. If they do then at least 10 clubs have nothing to play for. No way do Sky want a closed shop where the only interest is who is better out of man city and Liverpool, then which of the other giants scrapes into the top 4.

If there's one thing the premier league has excelled at, it's been selling the product. No relegation would take away a large part of the interest in their product
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I just wonder if the Prem would save L1 and L2 in return for absorbing the Championship as their 2nd tier?


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They should hand out the cash with no strings whatsoever because the PL owes EFL clubs for keeping grassroots football going for the past 20odd years while they and their greasy broadcaster pals and seedy investors have been coining it in by signing average tat players from abroad and setting up their selfish deals to spread the income global.

What we may think of the EFL itself does not matter. The PL has bags of dirty cash stashed and it’s time they unloaded some in recognition of what football is really about.

Every PL exec should also be made to read, inwardly digest and learn every word of Gregor Robertson’s Times article.


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And just to give you an example of how utterly useless the EFL are...

https://www.theguardian.com/fo.....chelsea-fourth-round

Leyton Orient do the morally right and safe thing, they accept the offer from Spurs to give their squad testing and subsequently cancel the game.  Yet they're punished by getting booted out of the competition.

West Ham on the other hand, players and manager test positive.  They play the competition (against a side that rejected the offer to have free testing) and put everyone at further risk.

Absolute jokes.  Forget them having the opportunity to reinvent themselves, this lot couldn't wipe their own bottom without asking the big boys if it was ok to do so.


And then they’d wipe it with the hand that didn’t have the toilet paper


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