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September 20, 2020, 10:18pm
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Concur that our pre-season preparations were poor and I have posted previously on my amazement that the club could not have a friendly fixture against local league opposition. Personally I thought it would be the Bradford game before we started to show our likely form for the coming season but whenever it occurs a 4-0 home defeat bites very deep into your belief and expectations.

That said a defence with Hendrie, Waterfall and Pollock, a midfield with Rose and hopefully an other and a forward line including Scannell and Hanson looks a much more competitive team and one that should fair well. Let’s hope that’s the case and Ollie is down mainly because these guys and Mohsni have to date not been available as a group.
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Think Ginny has pretty much got it right.

Ollie has questions to answer. It’s early days do he might be proved right. Let’s see.


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Why aren't our players fit when other teams are, and why have we such a big injury list when most of the injured haven't even played yet. Also where are all these contacts that Olly is supposed to have.


And why does it sometimes rain on a Friday, and why don't I have a dog..........



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September 21, 2020, 7:21am
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Some of you so called supporters are like a Cancer ffs, we have lost 2 games with half of the more experienced players out and a team thats played together for 3 weeks.

How can you make your mind up so early in the season?  call yourself supporters? bloody cancerous twits.
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And why does it sometimes rain on a Friday, and why don't I have a dog..........



Becdause we live in a temperate climate it rains for approx 156 days each year thus the odds of it raining on a Friday are pretty high. You dont have a dog because you haven't felt the need to get one at the moment, and being a bear it might not be a good mix, hope that helps
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There's absolutely zero case for excuses. The board voted for the salary cap which means A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERY CLUB IN THIS LEAGUE.


No it doesn't, because contracts signed before the rule was introduced are exempt. Which is why certain clubs signed stacks of players early whilst we twiddled our fingers to keep our costs down. And we returned late for pre-season so the players and staff could be kept on furlough for as long as possible to keep our costs down. How much money did both of those things save us? A fair bit, but a lot less than the money we'll lose if we end up back in the National League.

And the rule will be challenged in court and will 100% be ruled illegal and as a restriction of trade.

I've said it before, but if you want to kill a snake you have to go for the head and not the tail.

And I've said this before too, but Shutes and his consortium were expected to have funds in place to cover a downturn in fortunes. Fenty has cut back to the bare bones to avoid doing exactly that in the downturn of all downturns. And if/when the Premier League bail out the EFL he'll be laughing as he wouldn't have to put a penny in himself.
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No it doesn't, because contracts signed before the rule was introduced are exempt. Which is why certain clubs signed stacks of players early whilst we twiddled our fingers to keep our costs down. And we returned late for pre-season so the players and staff could be kept on furlough for as long as possible to keep our costs down. How much money did both of those things save us? A fair bit, but a lot less than the money we'll lose if we end up back in the National League.

And the rule will be challenged in court and will 100% be ruled illegal and as a restriction of trade.

I've said it before, but if you want to kill a snake you have to go for the head and not the tail.

And I've said this before too, but Shutes and his consortium were expected to have funds in place to cover a downturn in fortunes. Fenty has cut back to the bare bones to avoid doing exactly that in the downturn of all downturns. And if/when the Premier League bail out the EFL he'll be laughing as he wouldn't have to put a penny in himself.


Rugby clubs have the same rule, so what's the precedent for making it illegal?

It's already been stated by the chairman that if the club needs money to keep afloat then Fenty will provide the funds to keep us liquid. That's what they wanted to see proof of from Shutes, not that he would chuck a load of money in as soon as a problem came along.

What on earth makes you think the Premier league will bail out the EFL? Why would they? The best you can hope for is a loan or an advanced payment of next year's money. There is zero reason for the Premier League to support lower league football any more than they already do. And in reality, they do quite a lot already.
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No it doesn't, because contracts signed before the rule was introduced are exempt. Which is why certain clubs signed stacks of players early whilst we twiddled our fingers to keep our costs down. And we returned late for pre-season so the players and staff could be kept on furlough for as long as possible to keep our costs down. How much money did both of those things save us? A fair bit, but a lot less than the money we'll lose if we end up back in the National League.

And the rule will be challenged in court and will 100% be ruled illegal and as a restriction of trade.

I've said it before, but if you want to kill a snake you have to go for the head and not the tail.

And I've said this before too, [/b]but Shutes and his consortium were expected to have funds in place to cover a downturn in fortunes.[b] Fenty has cut back to the bare bones to avoid doing exactly that in the downturn of all downturns. And if/when the Premier League bail out the EFL he'll be laughing as he wouldn't have to put a penny in himself.


Firstly those who have gambled by being in players before Fair Play rules came into force and more selling season tickets than allowed, may have gain an advantage for now, how much of that gamble was based on crowds returning this season.
What happens if all games this season are behind closed doors, all those season tickets, have to be refunded, while still paying higher wages for players.
So we waited, worked on many fans we could faciliate, before putting season tickets on sale and have adjusted our budget accordingly, to me sensible. I would much rather have a Grimsby Town in support in the following years, yes even in the National league, rather than sat top of league 2 after 2 games.

Rugby has had a salary cap system in place for years, I forgot football is special.

I wonder how many teams in the coming months may have points deducted through not be able to pay their players wages?

So Shutes and his consortium were expecting us to have a downturn in fortunes, shows ambition that. We want the consortium to come with a new direction and ambition to drive the club forward, not a pot to fund a turndown in fortunes.

When have the EFL or the Premiership indicated that they will be a bailout fund for all EFL clubs.
Surely if  that was then case, Town would know, more than you.

UTMM what ever league we play in.
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So Shutes and his consortium were expecting us to have a downturn in fortunes, shows ambition that. We want the consortium to come with a new direction and ambition to drive the club forward, not a pot to fund a turndown in fortunes.

When have the EFL or the Premiership indicated that they will be a bailout fund for all EFL clubs.
Surely if  that was then case, Town would know, more than you.

UTMM what ever league we play in.


No, Fenty demanded proof of funds from Shutes that he had enough money put aside to cover a downturn. We’re in the ultimate downturn now. This season’s account will be interesting.

The government backed the PL’s project restart under the condition that they had free to air matches and that they looked after (bailed out) the EFL. Click here

The bail out will happen. The PL have already paid the entire seasons solidarity payment in full
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No, Fenty demanded proof of funds from Shutes that he had enough money put aside to cover a downturn. We’re in the ultimate downturn now. This season’s account will be interesting.

The government backed the PL’s project restart under the condition that they had free to air matches and that they looked after (bailed out) the EFL. [url= https://www.theguardian.com/fo.....o-restart-government]Click here[/url]

The bail out will happen. The PL have already paid the entire seasons solidarity payment in full


That article itself says that the Premier League don't think they have to pay any more, and they think the government just wants them to commit to the solidarity payments in place. And they've got a pretty good argument that after having their tv money reduced by something like £300 million, they're paying out a much higher percentage of their income than the current rules.
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