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Kris2
December 29, 2019, 12:37am
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Totally agree Kris he is a control freak.
Nobody can work with the man as has been proven.


It's not even just Fenty tbf, this forum has had visits from players,wives of players,mums and dads of players and so on to argue the toss and be critical of fan opinions. Where else does that happen? Lots of fans complain when things aren't going well and will pick out players or complain about board decisions and so on and they aren't being chased down on the forum by said players or chairman or being summoned for a sit down with print outs of what they said.

I see this stuff happen and how The Fishy nearly died because of it and I'm just like "Can you all intercourse off and focus on your job instead of spending time on here!?"
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Much like the club and it’s controller/s, the Trust will always be divisive. After they literally handed everything to Honeat John many lost their trust and their view changed. I appreciate a lot has changed since then but still, people remember that.

For some folk getting involved isn’t easy as for a time it did feel a bit like a willy swinging club. Chairpersons have come and gone at a fast rate and people who were ‘loud’ and involved have either walked away because of the disagreements and lack of shared vision for the Trust and club or others have disappeared as quick as they came.

Does the Trust being on the board have an impact? In my view it really doesn’t but then I don’t believe our bird is necessary given one man can seemingly do and say what he wants. Do I still believe they should be at the table? 100% I do, better to be at the party than not surely?

The statement released by the Trust before Christmas was as pointless as Honest John’s and seemed more of a towing of the company line. I don’t believe the trust for one minute are happy with how things are going or how slow and drawn out the club have made the potential investment/new ownership saga...nor do I believe they’ve been happy with how things have been done in the last few years...surely they have a right to air those views? If they can’t then is it worth existing in collaboration with the club? If they are allowed that level of autonomy and to publicly air their views but they don’t think it’s bad etc. then that is more alarming.

At this stage, criticising the Trust is pointless. They are fans at the end of the day and they have their opinion, perhaps they could utilise the opportunity to hold votes on decisions or views to get a true reflection of ‘fan’ voice but I’m sure there are rules etc. which impact the ability to do that. There’s only one person that needs criticising, one person has led us down this path before and one person who has remained, seemingly unscathed whilst cryarsing because he received some criticism.

Could the trust change? Possibly. Does it want to? I’ve no idea. At times I wonder if the agreement between the club and the trust keeps both parties happy; the club can control everything to a point (the issues with social media, nonsensical bans from BP, emails etc.) but equally, the Trust remains relevant...if they separated would the trust just become essentially a supporters group? Nothing more, nothing less?

Everyone has a view, but at this stage any serious questions, vitriol, anger, frustration should only be aimed at one person...perhaps if enough make a noise the trust will find it easier to claim that it is a fan view...


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Spot on.


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A good company line quote there. I guess much like the trust, you had your balls cut off a long time ago so you can't really say anything. I'm not sure I can think of another club where the chairman went out their way to control the fanbase in the boardroom and on social media. This forum still exists based on the good graces of our Lord Fenty.


Open your eyes, ears and brain and look who provides the very platform you are voicing an opinion on.


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A good company line quote there. I guess much like the trust, you had your balls cut off a long time ago so you can't really say anything. I'm not sure I can think of another club where the chairman went out their way to control the fanbase in the boardroom and on social media. This forum still exists based on the good graces of our Lord Fenty.


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You are so much up Fenty's bottom you can't see anything other than what Fenty had for breakfast, the fishy is owned and run by GrimRob, it's his good grace that this site exists because we know what your lord and master thinks of the fishy.


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You are so much up Fenty's bottom you can't see anything other than what Fenty had for breakfast, the fishy is owned and run by GrimRob, it's his good grace that this site exists because we know what your lord and master thinks of the fishy.


Unless I'm reading it wrong M93. Kris is actually having a pop at JF's interference (disclaimer   'or perceived interference') with what is acceptable on this site.Thus not sticking up for him ?? !!


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With the whole 'trust handing over the shares to fenty' thing... if I remember rightly (which is a big if to be fair), the trust held a vote with whether to do this or not. Which means it was a collective decision by all members. Which also means that anyone now having a pop with the benefit of hindsight could have joined and had a say at the time.

Many voted against it but like a union, it's a democratic process and you go with what the majority say or you lose your strength.

I imagine people laying in accusations that the trust were bullied by fenty, capitulated etc. did join up and vote at the time?
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With the whole 'trust handing over the shares to fenty' thing... if I remember rightly (which is a big if to be fair), the trust held a vote with whether to do this or not. Which means it was a collective decision by all members. Which also means that anyone now having a pop with the benefit of hindsight could have joined and had a say at the time.

Many voted against it but like a union, it's a democratic process and you go with what the majority say or you lose your strength.

I imagine people laying in accusations that the trust were bullied by fenty, capitulated etc. did join up and vote at the time?


Noises were made that had an influence on how people voted. Hindsight is such a wonderful thing, isn't it?
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Knowing us it's all probably stumbling over wether can get away with giving him the mondeo over the bm.


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[img]https://i.imgur.com/vy0mVuJ.gif[/img]

You are so much up Fenty's bottom you can't see anything other than what Fenty had for breakfast, the fishy is owned and run by GrimRob, it's his good grace that this site exists because we know what your lord and master thinks of the fishy.


So you're saying it was GrimRob who shut down his own forum? Not how I recall it, the only way he could get it back is by collecting personal information of everyone on the forum so somebody (Fenty probably) could have it if they didn't like something said. There were clearly some legal issues around the forum and when it came back you had to hand over your name and address for the right to even use it.
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