What is the point of the trust.!!

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Firstly, I hope you're now returning to full health.

Regarding the forum, there were several references to the Fishy, keyboard warriors etc. Now, the first thing to point out is that The Fishy isn't the only fans online forum in the country - we are not unique. The second thing is that everyone I've ever met who posts is passionate about the club and wants the best for its' future.

It may not be the way that Mr Fenty wants people to communicate with him but the football club is in the doldrums under his tenure and he cannot seriously believe that his time as owner is beyond criticism.

Let's hope we appoint a manager who can be a catalyst for change - it's about time we did!

UTM.

I think the key point here is regarding the communication.

Simple fact is, the way the club promotes or doesn’t in most cases, the clear lack of vision, the ridiculous statements and John’s illiterate ramblings on here or secret twitter handles is exactly why people get drunk off.

Throughout his tenure several managers and players have had tirades of abuse yet whenever he gets the chance, he literally ignores that and talks about him, the abuse he has suffered (forgetting throughout that time he has alienated the customers of his business with interviews on snooker tables, mentions of £100k cars etc).

Communication is key and again, all this talk of Holloway has at least stirred a minute interest within the fans but have the club realised that an appointment like that can raise the club profile, can increase social media followers, increase media interest? Whether we like it or not, that is modern football.

The club have been awful at communicating with fans of marketing the product. Remember when we didn’t ban a racist for life? The day before the season allowing a no mark to essentially call all the fans hooligans. Board members telling people to shut up. Deconstructing a flag of a small child. Illiterate ramblings on here. Disastrous fans forums when more discussion about flasks and what foot outlets at an imaginary stadium will look like. Having open events for the new stadium proposals but the whole thing being somewhat amateur with the owner of said product unable to explain the plans of his pipe dream. The PowerPoint referring to Hull City as Dull City in some thinly veiled attempt at being funny during a serious marketing exercise.

The list is endless and may be Dave and John do raise questions about this but again, they are but one voice and the buck ultimately stops with Honest John. He clearly lacks leadership capabilities and any clue about moving the club forward and that has to be the bigger concern.

Perhaps trust members on the board are as culpable as Honest John in which case a wider discussion around their roles and tenure in the board is worth discussion but at this stage removing the man at the top should be everyone’s priority.

Quoted from aldi_01

I think the key point here is regarding the communication.

Simple fact is, the way the club promotes or doesn’t in most cases, the clear lack of vision, the ridiculous statements and John’s illiterate ramblings on here or secret twitter handles is exactly why people get drunk off.

Throughout his tenure several managers and players have had tirades of abuse yet whenever he gets the chance, he literally ignores that and talks about him, the abuse he has suffered (forgetting throughout that time he has alienated the customers of his business with interviews on snooker tables, mentions of £100k cars etc).

Communication is key and again, all this talk of Holloway has at least stirred a minute interest within the fans but have the club realised that an appointment like that can raise the club profile, can increase social media followers, increase media interest? Whether we like it or not, that is modern football.

The club have been awful at communicating with fans of marketing the product. Remember when we didn’t ban a racist for life? The day before the season allowing a no mark to essentially call all the fans hooligans. Board members telling people to shut up. Deconstructing a flag of a small child. Illiterate ramblings on here. Disastrous fans forums when more discussion about flasks and what foot outlets at an imaginary stadium will look like. Having open events for the new stadium proposals but the whole thing being somewhat amateur with the owner of said product unable to explain the plans of his pipe dream. The PowerPoint referring to Hull City as Dull City in some thinly veiled attempt at being funny during a serious marketing exercise.

The list is endless and may be Dave and John do raise questions about this but again, they are but one voice and the buck ultimately stops with Honest John. He clearly lacks leadership capabilities and any clue about moving the club forward and that has to be the bigger concern.

Perhaps trust members on the board are as culpable as Honest John in which case a wider discussion around their roles and tenure in the board is worth discussion but at this stage removing the man at the top should be everyone’s priority.

Enthusiastic amateurs........ often though the enthusiasm has gone and they see their role as "custodians" as a burden and a cross to bear.

Quoted from aldi_01

I think the key point here is regarding the communication.

Simple fact is, the way the club promotes or doesn’t in most cases, the clear lack of vision, the ridiculous statements and John’s illiterate ramblings on here or secret twitter handles is exactly why people get drunk off.

Throughout his tenure several managers and players have had tirades of abuse yet whenever he gets the chance, he literally ignores that and talks about him, the abuse he has suffered (forgetting throughout that time he has alienated the customers of his business with interviews on snooker tables, mentions of £100k cars etc).

Communication is key and again, all this talk of Holloway has at least stirred a minute interest within the fans but have the club realised that an appointment like that can raise the club profile, can increase social media followers, increase media interest? Whether we like it or not, that is modern football.

The club have been awful at communicating with fans of marketing the product. Remember when we didn’t ban a racist for life? The day before the season allowing a no mark to essentially call all the fans hooligans. Board members telling people to shut up. Deconstructing a flag of a small child. Illiterate ramblings on here. Disastrous fans forums when more discussion about flasks and what foot outlets at an imaginary stadium will look like. Having open events for the new stadium proposals but the whole thing being somewhat amateur with the owner of said product unable to explain the plans of his pipe dream. The PowerPoint referring to Hull City as Dull City in some thinly veiled attempt at being funny during a serious marketing exercise.

The list is endless and may be Dave and John do raise questions about this but again, they are but one voice and the buck ultimately stops with Honest John. He clearly lacks leadership capabilities and any clue about moving the club forward and that has to be the bigger concern.

Perhaps trust members on the board are as culpable as Honest John in which case a wider discussion around their roles and tenure in the board is worth discussion but at this stage removing the man at the top should be everyone’s priority.

In simpler terms, it would be much easier for the Trust to have a positive impact if they were supporting a regime that doesn't see fans as a necessary evil/hindrance.

Agreed. Which again probably reinforces the notion that our board are arrogant and self obsessed narcissistic twits.

They see no value in the paying customers that were paying customers well before they ever became involved but because they happen to have a few pounds more, well one of them does, that makes him/them more important and we are mere peasants who cause discord and hassle that they see no need for...

Quoted from MarinerWY

Did you sign up and vote?

No, I had thought about joining but after that debacle decided  I don't see the point anymore.