Has he gone yet.!!

Quoted from Civvy at last

Just to clear up the deconstruction of the flag episode.
I was sat very close to that incident.  (And no I wasn’t with ‘Butty)😉

Said child was asked repeatedly to stop waving it so aggressively.
It was getting in the faces of the people around him and was extremely annoying and he knew it.
If JF hadn’t done something it genuinely could have been worse.  Had I deconstructed it, the child concerned would have spent the night with a rectal surgeon removing it bit  by bit.
I don’t stick up for JF too often, but was one of quite a few that applauded him for that.

I was sat very near to this, Newport adults encouraged the child. A flag with a stick should never have been allowed in.

Quoted from barralad

I've never been a business man so have no experience to call on but lets hypothesise for a moment. Obviously it would be better if the club had current momentum on the pitch a la Lincoln a couple of years ago but do business men only look at the current situation? What about potential? If as "Big Dog" and others suggest the main problems are fan engagement/technical development etc. surely these would be easily remedied by someone with  vision?
I suspect anyone coming in would conduct their own "due diligence" and see that whatever problems are associated with a League Two football team in the case of GTFC a financially well run club in terms of balancing the books etc provides a good foundation.
This may be entirely wishful thinking but I'm not getting any younger and I would really love to see some lasting progression and to be able to watch MY club play again at a higher level preferably in a fit for purpose 21st. Century stadium...

A rounded vision that is directed at the GTFC fans who sparingly go to games or have stopped going completely is needed. A comprehensive and wide-ranging plan executed adeptly and accurately which carries a lot of provenance and can re-engage that sector of our support and the wider community, because if they are willing to re-engage again, then whatever vision it is should also be working for our existing diehard support..

Quoted from barralad

I've never been a business man so have no experience to call on but lets hypothesise for a moment. Obviously it would be better if the club had current momentum on the pitch a la Lincoln a couple of years ago but do business men only look at the current situation? What about potential? If as "Big Dog" and others suggest the main problems are fan engagement/technical development etc. surely these would be easily remedied by someone with  vision?
I suspect anyone coming in would conduct their own "due diligence" and see that whatever problems are associated with a League Two football team in the case of GTFC a financially well run club in terms of balancing the books etc provides a good foundation.
This may be entirely wishful thinking but I'm not getting any younger and I would really love to see some lasting progression and to be able to watch MY club play again at a higher level preferably in a fit for purpose 21st. Century stadium...

A good assessment. I wouldn’t think there’s the scope to make a lot of money, bearing in mind the redevelopment/stadium  costs, but there’s potential for a larger, sustainable fan-base. The club could be a standard bearer for regeneration. A symbol of new found confidence.

Quoted from ska face

Imagine if Shutes came in, negotiated a deal where a £600k loan became £2.5m of debt which rolled on for 15 years, oversaw 2 back-to-back relegations, sat and watched the longest winless run in the club’s history, took us into non-league for 6 years, allowed the stadium to fall into absolute disrepair, spent over a decade giving grief to fans, local press partners and other key stakeholders (the council, the police, local public), voted for the introduction of B-teams against the express interest of fans...twice, all whilst serving up gaffes and PR disasters on an almost monthly basis.

Wonder how much patience the bootlickers would have with him?

What the hell are you on about ?  

There is no club in the world that would allow that to happen, surely. And if it somehow did, I can’t imagine a club with fans so loyal that they would still turn up in their thousands to support that club.


Oh


Hang on ...........

Quoted from barralad

I've never been a business man so have no experience to call on but lets hypothesise for a moment. Obviously it would be better if the club had current momentum on the pitch a la Lincoln a couple of years ago but do business men only look at the current situation? What about potential? If as "Big Dog" and others suggest the main problems are fan engagement/technical development etc. surely these would be easily remedied by someone with  vision?
I suspect anyone coming in would conduct their own "due diligence" and see that whatever problems are associated with a League Two football team in the case of GTFC a financially well run club in terms of balancing the books etc provides a good foundation.
This may be entirely wishful thinking but I'm not getting any younger and I would really love to see some lasting progression and to be able to watch MY club play again at a higher level preferably in a fit for purpose 21st. Century stadium...

A good assessment, I know Fenty is a fan,  has kept the club solvent and has every right to expect to recover his loans, however  on the football side Fenty has failed, we have spent much of his tenure either fighting relegation from the league or in non league, we cut out cloth and standards to non league and never stepped up off the pitch when we got promoted, the ground is crumbling and the new stadium issue seems endless.
The them and us attitude of the board is unbelievable in what should be a community club. New energy is needed throughout the club, an assessment of everyone's role and how to improve is needed, more professional PR and fan liaison are a must.

The disappointment if this bid fails will be massive, with the new season, new signings and new hope, carrying on with the same Board who seem to delight in antagonizing their customers will deflate any enthusiasm

Quoted from Civvy at last

Just to clear up the deconstruction of the flag episode.
I was sat very close to that incident.  (And no I wasn’t with ‘Butty)😉

Said child was asked repeatedly to stop waving it so aggressively.
It was getting in the faces of the people around him and was extremely annoying and he knew it.
If JF hadn’t done something it genuinely could have been worse.  Had I deconstructed it, the child concerned would have spent the night with a rectal surgeon removing it bit  by bit.
I don’t stick up for JF too often, but was one of quite a few that applauded him for that.

In the absence of photographic evidence with redacted faces, I find your version of events very hard to believe..  

It's absolutely true, I was sat a bit behind same kid, he was most definitely asked several times to stop waving the flag but wouldn't.

I think most including myself mention the flag incident with a little bit of humour nothing more in truth

Quoted from Bigdog

A rounded vision that is directed at the GTFC fans who sparingly go to games or have stopped going completely is needed. A comprehensive and wide-ranging plan executed adeptly and accurately which carries a lot of provenance and can re-engage that sector of our support and the wider community, because if they are willing to re-engage again, then whatever vision it is should also be working for our existing diehard support..

Not like you to miss my point Bigdog. I wouldn't disagree with a single word of what you say. I'm only suggesting that given the underlying financial health of GTFC any would be investor might not be put off by the repayment of a loan. We aren't Bury or Notts County type financial basket cases. Anyway  I'm allowing myself to hope...

Quoted from barralad

Not like you to miss my point Bigdog. I wouldn't disagree with a single word of what you say. I'm only suggesting that given the underlying financial health of GTFC any would be investor might not be put off by the repayment of a loan. We aren't Bury or Notts County type financial basket cases. Anyway  I'm allowing myself to hope...

In relative terms, the outstanding loan amount, which has been our fairly static historical debt figure for 20 years, should not really be a game changing additional cost to overcome especially if repayments are spread over the long term ie 100k per annum. There is helluva lot of unlocked potential to increase income streams along with the predicted upsurge in support for a fresh start. Clean slate and all that. Value wise, the figure to take over a controlling interest by way of purchasing JF's shares on a pound for pound basis would seem about the correct value for the club as it stands. If the inconing investor(s) indeed have big plans for the club and wider community regeneration, then 100k or so per annum to pay off the said loans should be no more than a frustrating hindrance and a bit of a drag on future growth rather than a deal breaker. a 10% increase in season ticket sales should cover it. .

I'm allowing myself to hope too Barra having been on this GTFC rollercoaster of a journey for pretty much as long as you have..