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Bigdog
March 30, 2019, 11:44pm
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We have a huge problem in central midfield and we've only got three to choose from for three positions in this formation. Hessenthaler is an above average League Two footballer, Clifton is sometimes above and sometimes below the required level while still developing and Woolford is consistently below the level required. All three as a unit are not a good mix and lack power, pace, physicality and creativity in total output for a midfield three and is well below average for the division. Add to it that we probably have the weakest left hand side in the division as well as the weakest formation for the players available for selection in any squad, then we're not going to win games are we?

As forwards go.. I prefer A Rose, Vernam and Dennis to Thomas, Cook and Cardwell and I think we've got three or four decent young defenders and a decent wing back in Hendrie along with a good keeper in Macca. We're about half way to having a decent team with a huge question mark in whether our board is capable of generating enough income to provide the budget required to secure the services of four or five regular starters that will improve our starting eleven. And I'm sorry to say this.. question marks over whether our manager is the real deal or not.

Oldham are poor and didn't even need to play that well to beat us and that has to be a worry. We definitely weren't second best for large parts of the game today but we often lose out due to deficiencies in key areas. Our points haul this season has masked how many times we've played below average or poorly so often in games and thank god for those games where we've hung in and won points when not playing well.

One more transfer window or season at the most to see if Jolley can deliver this more physical pacy, higher pressing game that he's promised.. and looking forward to seeing if the "takeover when we get to 50 points" is more than a myth because yet again it's been proved that a John Fenty led GTFC can never be better than a bottom third League Two club, so a modest increase in budget next season isn't going to cut it. Any board of GTFC is going to have to come up with a plan to sell 5000 season tickets or put their hands in their pockets to fund a promotion chasing season or else we're going to be saying the same thing April after April or even worse..

Depressing watching this shower of shite at the minute, and most teams that are beating us aren't much better which makes it all the more frustrating..
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Very poor imo today.  We just look so weak and lightweight, and game's are over the minute we go behind.

So little creativity, Ring is nothing more than Sunday league, and Im beginning to think that Jolley is not much better.

Players are capable of good games, but stringing consistent performances together as a team?.

Think the Dennis move has been poor, and poorly handled by Jolly. Be interesting to see if we go for him permanently, but with such lack of creativity he might not want to sign for us anyway.  Done enough to be safe this season. but as to long term progress, its really minimal.  there is certainly no way this current squad will challenge at the top end of the league, and given there all virtually Jolley's players, this is deeply worrying.  

Will give Jolley 10 games into next season, but if no improvement then he should be sacked.
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We have a huge problem in central midfield and we've only got three to choose from for three positions in this formation. Hessenthaler is an above average League Two footballer, Clifton is sometimes and sometimes below the required level while still developing and Woolford is consistently below the level required. All three as a unit are not a good mix and lack power, pace, physicality and creativity in total output for a midfield three and is well below average for the division. Add to it that we probably have the weakest left hand side in the division as well as the weakest formation for the players available for selection in any squad, then we're not going to win games are we?

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I'm sorry but I don't think he is, doesn't create much and certainly doesn't help stop poor teams scoring against us.
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We have a huge problem in central midfield and we've only got three to choose from for three positions in this formation. Hessenthaler is an above average League Two footballer, Clifton is sometimes and sometimes below the required level while still developing and Woolford is consistently below the level required. All three as a unit are not a good mix and lack power, pace, physicality and creativity in total output for a midfield three and is well below average for the division. Add to it that we probably have the weakest left hand side in the division as well as the weakest formation for the players available for selection in any squad, then we're not going to win games are we?

As forwards go.. I prefer A Rose, Vernam and Dennis to Thomas, Cook and Cardwell and I think we've got three or four decent young defenders and a decent wing back in Hendrie along with a good keeper in Macca. We're about half way to having a decent team with a huge question mark in whether our board is capable of generating enough income to provide the budget required to secure the services of four or five regular starters that will improve our starting eleven. And I'm sorry to say this.. question marks over whether our manager is the real deal or not.

Oldham are poor and didn't even need to play that well to beat us and that has to be a worry. We definitely weren't second best for large parts of the game today but we often lose out due to deficiencies in key areas. Our points haul this season has masked how many times we've played below average or poorly so often in games and thank god for those games where we've hung in and won points when not playing well.

One more transfer window or season at the most to see if Jolley can deliver this more physical pacy, higher pressing game that he's promised.. and looking forward to seeing if the "takeover when we get to 50 points" is more than a myth because yet again it's been proved that a John Fenty led GTFC can never be better than a bottom third League Two club, so a modest increase in budget next season isn't going to cut it. Any board of GTFC is going to have to come up with a plan to sell 5000 season tickets or put their hands in their pockets to fund a promotion chasing season or else we're going to be saying the same thing April after April or even worse..

Depressing watching this shower of shite at the minute, and most teams that are beating us aren't much better which makes it all the more frustrating..


Excellent post as usual.......the truth hurts.



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Yep Bigdog has it spot on.


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                            Macca
Hendrie       Davis        Öhman          Ring
                     Hess         Clifton
Rose                   Dennis                    Vernam
                           Thomas


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                            Macca
Hendrie       Davis        Öhman          Ring
                     Hess         Clifton
Rose                   Dennis                    Vernam
                           Thomas


I think you've got to play RHJ & Hendrie as full backs - Ring simply isn't good enough.
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In essence I agree. We’ve got too many players that are ‘alright ‘ but very little match winning quality. The only part of the season we looked potent was when Vernam and Embo played alongside Thomas in a 433. Ironically it coincided with a good run of form by Mitch Rose and culminated in good wins against Tranmere and Notts. We scored 9 of our 40 goals in two home wins.


Hardly surprising given the budget that Jolley is working with.
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I think we have got worse down the left since JJ Hooper left,and that's saying something.
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I think we have got worse down the left since JJ Hooper left,and that's saying something.


It's a sorry list of players who have played there since Danny Andrew left. Fox was ok but probably just about competent at best, DJ was learning his trade and forever in and out of the side, Dixon, Hooper, Woolford, Ring, Kelly..
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