Just Back

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Simple, Jolleys record is better which equals improvement!!

Great. So Jolley being slightly less shite than Russell Slade is good enough is it?

I was sat at Oldham today wondering what Jolley has actually done to deserve the adulation he receives. It’s certainly not the football. It’s amazing how far a bit of good PR goes. Oh and not being Russell Slade has helped him too.

Quoted from Gaffer58

Not be to long before someone comes on here and writes" in Jolley we trust".

The jury is still out....six month rolling contract works for both.

I thought we were lacking in ideas and our passing is poor. Still waiting for Jolley's pressing and attacking football.

Quoted from Marinerz93

I thought we were lacking in ideas and our passing is poor. Still waiting for Jolley's pressing and attacking football.

Athleticism and pace was what was promised, seems a long time ago.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Slade’s final 15 league matches...

W 3 - D 4 - L 8 - F 10 - A 23 - Pts 13

Jolley’s last 15 league matches...

W 4 - D 3 - L 8 - F 11 - A 19 - Pts 15

Discuss...

I’ll start. Jolley is underachieving and results and performances need to improve immediately.

15 is an oddly specific number to use...

Quoted from Grantley

15 is an oddly specific number to use...

What about 16? The number of league games we’ve failed to score in.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Great. So Jolley being slightly less shite than Russell Slade is good enough is it?

I was sat at Oldham today wondering what Jolley has actually done to deserve the adulation he receives. It’s certainly not the football. It’s amazing how far a bit of good PR goes. Oh and not being Russell Slade has helped him too.

Sorry?..little lass shite than Slade??....there's no comparison between the 2!!..we went on a 21 game run of utter dross with a squad if has beens and journeyman under Slade..
Jolley has brought in some quality and  has brought down the average by 4 years!!...
Rome wasn't built in a day and I was there myself today and thought that if the first 44 minutes was anything to go by the futures looking bright, then it all fell apart ..
Given 2 more windows I'll gladly revisit this thread as I do believe he has a way he wants to play and given 4-5 more players we'll reap the rewards and actually get to see the high press, attacking game he speaks off.

Clifton was ineffective in Embleton's advanced midfield role. Much more suited to a normal midfield role where he can get around the pitch and arrive late in the box.

Don't think we need two sitting midfielders when we've got 3 centre backs. Even if we play the tactic of RHJ bombing forward. One is enough, especially if it is Hessentahler, who can cover ground quickly. 1 deeper with 2 ahead of him, rather than the opposite, would allow us to get an extra player further forward to help us reduce the numerical advantage of the defending team and help us keep and progress possession in areas higher up the pitch.

I think we still suffer from having quite a few players that are decent enough technically, but don't effect games at this level or don't have the physical make-up to be able to use their technical ability to effect a game. These players probably look decent in training and in 5-a-sides, but out on the big pitches against competitive opposition is a different world.

Vernam certainly offered something in the 2nd half but went quiet as the game died out. Just someone who can carry the ball and run at players makes us less predictable. If we dont have any pace or anyone who can run with the ball, the opposition know they can just either let us have the ball in front of them if they're organised, or close us down quick in 1v1s knowing we'll panic and either play a hopeful punt forward or play it back until someone else does. It's no coincidence our best spell of the season came with both Embleton AND Vernam starting in the team.

There's no point us playing Thomas any more I dont think. Even if he's staying, we know what he can do anyway, so give some other partnerships a try. And he's not in great form either.

If it was me, I'd go 4-3-3 the last few games.or if we're insistent on 3 at the back. I'd change it to 3-4-3 with Clifton and Hess in midfield, and Vernam and Rose starting wide of Dennis or even Cardwell who offers a decent target to play to if not a goal threat.

Quoted from Tommy

Clifton was ineffective in Embleton's advanced midfield role. Much more suited to a normal midfield role where he can get around the pitch and arrive late in the box.

Don't think we need two sitting midfielders when we've got 3 centre backs. Even if we play the tactic of RHJ bombing forward. One is enough, especially if it is Hessentahler, who can cover ground quickly. 1 deeper with 2 ahead of him, rather than the opposite, would allow us to get an extra player further forward to help us reduce the numerical advantage of the defending team and help us keep and progress possession in areas higher up the pitch.

I think we still suffer from having quite a few players that are decent enough technically, but don't effect games at this level or don't have the physical make-up to be able to use their technical ability to effect a game. These players probably look decent in training and in 5-a-sides, but out on the big pitches against competitive opposition is a different world.

Vernam certainly offered something in the 2nd half but went quiet as the game died out. Just someone who can carry the ball and run at players makes us less predictable. If we dont have any pace or anyone who can run with the ball, the opposition know they can just either let us have the ball in front of them if they're organised, or close us down quick in 1v1s knowing we'll panic and either play a hopeful punt forward or play it back until someone else does. It's no coincidence our best spell of the season came with both Embleton AND Vernam starting in the team.

There's no point us playing Thomas any more I dont think. Even if he's staying, we know what he can do anyway, so give some other partnerships a try. And he's not in great form either.

If it was me, I'd go 4-3-3 the last few games.or if we're insistent on 3 at the back. I'd change it to 3-4-3 with Clifton and Hess in midfield, and Vernam and Rose starting wide of Dennis or even Cardwell who offers a decent target to play to if not a goal threat.

I’d give Burrell a go before Cardwell. We know how limited he is already.

Matched them first half and was unlucky to be behind
Second half we where poor and miles behind a cobbled together Oldham side who are in turmoil ( and sometimes don’t get paid for weeks)
Where is our fight?
As soon as games change up a knotch and we need to find extra bite, zip, aggression, we are very much lacking
There fans sang at us today that they where winning 2-0 how excrement must we be !!
Oldham fans we spoke to said we looked clueless in last third
And gave the ball away way to much
I am still yet to be convinced by this current set up (and jeez do I want to be after the last few seasons since Wembley)
But if this is “”It”” then next season will be more of the same
Sad Tonight as u don’t get many games in footie where u can experiment and go for it with youngsters in the mix etc
And we have half a dozen or so
Expected so much more today than I saw
Come on Town!!