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At last, finally punching above our weight at something..
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Talking of ‘punching’. I would be interested to see just how many of these bans resulted from actual fighting ? I would imagine very few. I’m not saying it’s alright, but I would bet most of them are for behaviour that would just get you warned on a night out !


Also, if we can still blame ITV Digital for the state of the club, can we still blame ‘Burton’  for the high rate of banning orders ?


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Talking of ‘punching’. I would be interested to see just how many of these bans resulted from actual fighting ? I would imagine very few. I’m not saying it’s alright, but I would bet most of them are for behaviour that would just get you warned on a night out !


Also, if we can still blame ITV Digital for the state of the club, can we still blame ‘Burton’  for the high rate of banning orders ?


I would think all the Burton ones will be "spent" by now.



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Are there any stats for whether these banning orders are at home or away and for inside the ground vs outside?

I think it's a bit harsh to blame the safety officer for the number of banning orders, when I thought most of them are for incidents outside of the stadium or not even in Grimsby.

Whether you like it or not, we have a reputation as being trouble causers and as such we've got a target on our back which makes police/stewards look more closely at us than other teams. It's only a very small minority that actually cause problems, but they do exist. There have been enough incidents over recent years to say that it isn't just the authorities being over zealous that has led to this. It's a bit of a stretch to claim we're the victims of every incident.
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I would think all the Burton ones will be "spent" by now.


Hence the line about ITV digital Les,  Whoosh  


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Are there any stats for whether these banning orders are at home or away and for inside the ground vs outside?

I think it's a bit harsh too blame the safety officer for the number of banning orders, when I thought most of them are for incidents outside of the stadium or not even in Grimsby.

Whether you like it or not, we have a reputation as being trouble causers and as such we've got a target on our back which makes police/stewards look more closely at us than other teams. It's only a very small minority that actually cause problems, but they do exist. There have been enough incidents over recent years to say that it isn't just the authorities being over zealous that has led to this. It's a bit of a stretch to claim we're the victims of every incident.


I dont think anyone is claiming that are they?

We DO have an undesirable element but we also have an over zealous safety officer who pushes for banning orders for the most minor of incidents. If someone is fighting,attacking other fans then the majority of people would agree that a banning order is correct but for gesticulating or shouting it seems very draconian. Other fans get away with acting the fool but not at GTFC where sadly the said safety officer  wears the badge of honour with the banning order league tables alonside his slimy grim
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Are there any stats for whether these banning orders are at home or away and for inside the ground vs outside?

I think it's a bit harsh too blame the safety officer for the number of banning orders, when I thought most of them are for incidents outside of the stadium or not even in Grimsby.

Whether you like it or not, we have a reputation as being trouble causers and as such we've got a target on our back which makes police/stewards look more closely at us than other teams. It's only a very small minority that actually cause problems, but they do exist. There have been enough incidents over recent years to say that it isn't just the authorities being over zealous that has led to this. It's a bit of a stretch to claim we're the victims of every incident.

There are stats on the spreadsheet in the link provided that tell us how many arrests were made home and away, but not whether or not these resulted in banning orders. You have to enable editing to be able to select individual clubs though. Ours are quite heavily leaning towards the away days for last season, but I suspect that a fair few of those were from the Lincoln match. Interestingly, there are 17 arrests for public disorder both Lincoln home and us away so make of that what you will.

Anyone recall how many Port Vale fans roughly were involved in the incident last season? They only had 3 arrests away all season and we only had 6 at home, so it seems we're actually quite lenient.

The increase in banning orders is a bit disappointing as we'd avoided being one of the highlighted teams over recent seasons and our numbers were decreasing or stabilising but there's no getting away from this season's increase.

Come to think of it actually, didn't a load of Town fans get banning orders from the Lincoln match, while a load of Lincoln fans got a couple of match bans?
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I dont think anyone is claiming that are they?

We DO have an undesirable element but we also have an over zealous safety officer who pushes for banning orders for the most minor of incidents. If someone is fighting,attacking other fans then the majority of people would agree that a banning order is correct but for gesticulating or shouting it seems very draconian. Other fans get away with acting the fool but not at GTFC where sadly the said safety officer  wears the badge of honour with the banning order league tables alonside his slimy grim


Football is supposed to be a sport for everybody. I don't want my family around people that are gesticulating or shouting. Certainly not the things that are often getting shouted. Maybe we're more harsh with it, I don't know how you can quantify that, but if people can't sit and watch a football match for 2 hours without acting aggressively or insulting towards other people, then they only have themselves to blame. You wouldn't think that sort of behaviour is ok when walking down the street, so why the hell is it ok at a football match?
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I don't hear much about violence and I reckon the majority will be drunken disorder.




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Football is supposed to be a sport for everybody. I don't want my family around people that are gesticulating or shouting. Certainly not the things that are often getting shouted. Maybe we're more harsh with it, I don't know how you can quantify that, but if people can't sit and watch a football match for 2 hours without acting aggressively or insulting towards other people, then they only have themselves to blame. You wouldn't think that sort of behaviour is ok when walking down the street, so why the hell is it ok at a football match?


You dont want shouting at a football match?

Take away the passion then the game is dead. I would stress i am not talking about violence or serious threatening behaviour but singing chanting and cheering is a major part of English football as is barracking the opposition

What a strange animal you are!
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