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Abdul19
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Quoted from ginnywings
Don't know why anyone takes any notice of bookies odds.


Are you saying that the 1-3 odds being offered 3 months ago on the bloke who manages Boston taking the GTFC job were completely meaningless?  


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Are you saying that the 1-3 odds being offered 3 months ago on the bloke who manages Boston taking the GTFC job were completely meaningless?  


I think i am, yes.  
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Jolley has got off to a good start in the shorrt time he has been with us. Its a very big gamble for someone to give him a bigger job until theyve seen his recruitment ability and managed for a season at least. Ive got confidence in him but im a town fan so tend to be overoptimistic despite past similar horror experiences.
Im not going to lose any sleep over it.


                           
                        

               
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I think the clubs view will be that Jolley ( and Hurst/Bignot before him), effectively has the job in perpetuity, and that this is the best position for both manager and club. This may or may be something that people agree with but is the board's stance.


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Well he won't be staying with us for long if w don't give him a longer contract is my view, regardless of the boards beliefs. The board believed slade should be given the whole of the transfer window to sell our best players and carry on losing matches. They can't be trusted and are clearly pretty clueless when it comes to football. When u stumble upon a cracking manager (which happens rarely) you back them if you want them to stay, a six months rolling contract lost us Hurst after 3 months of league football.
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Quoted from toontown
Well he won't be staying with us for long if w don't give him a longer contract is my view, regardless of the boards beliefs. The board believed slade should be given the whole of the transfer window to sell our best players and carry on losing matches. They can't be trusted and are clearly pretty clueless when it comes to football. When u stumble upon a cracking manager (which happens rarely) you back them if you want them to stay, a six months rolling contract lost us Hurst after 3 months of league football.


The reason we lost Paul Hurst was because they wouldn't buy into his idea of taking the club forward. Things like fitness coaches and analytic computer programmes. If they had then that could have been us playing Charlton today.

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Quoted from toontown
Well he won't be staying with us for long if w don't give him a longer contract is my view, regardless of the boards beliefs. The board believed slade should be given the whole of the transfer window to sell our best players and carry on losing matches. They can't be trusted and are clearly pretty clueless when it comes to football. When u stumble upon a cracking manager (which happens rarely) you back them if you want them to stay, a six months rolling contract lost us Hurst after 3 months of league football.


That's not why we lost Hurst.

There is a view that a six month rolling contract is the closest thing to a permanent contract - a six month rolling contract is never running down towards an end.


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Quoted from chaos33


That's not why we lost Hurst.

There is a view that a six month rolling contract is the closest thing to a permanent contract - a six month rolling contract is never running down towards an end.


Well the value of the contract dictates the compensation paid, and a six month rolling contract has a value of just 6 months. The cost of levering Jolley away would therefore be relatively little, the same as it was for Hurst, such that a club at the very bottom of league 1 was able to afford it. The value of a longer contract can deter those who would otherwise take a manager off a club.
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True. I wonder how much it would cost Ipswich to prise the Cowleys from Lincoln if they're supposedly on a contract there until 2022?


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Quoted from RichMariner
True. I wonder how much it would cost Ipswich to prise the Cowleys from Lincoln if they're supposedly on a contract there until 2022?


Given that it would be compensation for both manager and assistant for 4 full years it would be pretty eye-watering. Hence why Lincoln stll have the Cowleys, when they extended ther contracts mid-way through their first season it ruled out any club below championship level being able to afford them. An extremely wise move.

One thing is that prior to Wilkinson leaving we would have had a 6 month contract for manager only by way of compensation, as Wilkinso was forced on Jolley when he arrived. Jolley would have been an even cheaper option than Hurst was as Hurst's move involved Doig too. With Wilko leaving we will be getting in Jolley's man as assistant and a poaching club would have to compensate for him too.
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