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chipsandgravy
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It's simple for me. The Slade/Fenty combination nearly finished me off supporting Town after 35 years. Never have I seen so many 'shoot yourself in the foot' moments as I have seen at Town in the last year and beyond.
Last week's announcement of letting Wilko go was a great statement of intent that change is a foot. God alone knows we need it. I have found my mojo back with Town and have great optimism that Michael Jolley can bring change on and off the field.
If Fenty thinks he is unpopular now a hate to think what would happen if he cocks this opportunity up. If he likes a statement or two and wants us all to pull together then make one about supporting Jolley and giving him time to modernise the club. And in addition give him a chance to do it with a two year contract.
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Hang about...when I think of it no more statements just keep out the ruddy way and stay quiet!!
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Quoted from toontown


Well the value of the contract dictates the compensation paid, and a six month rolling contract has a value of just 6 months. The cost of levering Jolley away would therefore be relatively little, the same as it was for Hurst, such that a club at the very bottom of league 1 was able to afford it. The value of a longer contract can deter those who would otherwise take a manager off a club.


and imagine the compensation we would have to pay should we decide to get rid of a useless manager on 3/4/5 yr contract ? Swings and roundabouts.


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If Fenty thinks he is unpopular now a hate to think what would happen if he cocks this opportunity up. If he likes a statement or two and wants us all to pull together then make one about supporting Jolley and giving him time to modernise the club. And in addition give him a chance to do it with a two year contract.



I agree totally about the contract but

If Jolley doesn't deliver or worse, fails will it be down to Fenty?

It Jolley suceeds will it be down to Fenty?

I think I know the answers

Poor sod can't win, no praise for appointing Jolley (despite everyone thinking its great) just criticism for leaving it so late


I don't actually want to say I told you so, but, intercourse it, I did
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This feel like a recurring theme with every new manager.

Newell was supposed to bring a new sense of professionalism, driving us away from the old school mentality we had adopted under Buckley Mk III.  Innovative training sessions rather than running for miles on the beach and a game of five-a-side.  Little did we know his innovation stretched as far as the pub for 'team bonding'.

Then came Woods with his modern approach to the game, bringing back the passing and move culture with a modern twist.  Even with relegation came the promise of £1million of investment to the background functions, which amounted to a £150 York Multigym from Argos and a new portable water boiler at Cheapside.

Next up, Hurst (first with Scott).  Young, hungry and dynamic.  Hell, these guys (well, one of them) even knew how to use a computer.  A bloody COMPUTER!!  Forget 2013, this was 3013 with these guys.  From a professionalism point of view, Scott wouldn't know if it hit him on the nose.  Hurst did well to ditch him at the first opportunity and did his best to make the club more professional.  Incidents of playing up were dealt with (Thanoj, I'Anson, Eagle, Brown, Mackreth etc. etc.) and he badly wanted to use sports science to kick forward.  The non-chairman saw a video on YouTube though that said you didn't need that modern jazz though and as long as the players had jam and peanut butter sandwiches they'll be ok.  Hurst left, found a club who were serious about development and now sit a game away from the Championship.  The non-chairman just tried to claim credit for avoiding relegation back to non-league.

In came Bignot with his skinny jeans and a grey tank top.  Pep Guardiola in every sense of the word, apart from that key ingredient - everything.  He talked a good game, he sounded like he knew was he was doing but ultimately he didn't have a bloody clue.  He tried to bring modern technology to training but unfortunately he found his 4G signal at Cheapside was weak, limiting his ability to deliver a training session from a YouTube video on his phone.

Slade - As mentioned above. TV's and a table.  Modern thinking at its finest.  He wanted the players to talk to each other, what's better than shoving them in front of a TV with 15-to-1 on whilst they eat their chicken dippers and oven chips.  Slade was a dab hand with Microsoft Powerpoint, which went down great for the radio audience.  

Good luck Michael.  You're going to bloody well need it!


I think you are being very very harsh there. Rome wasn't built in a day you know.  

We have huge problems in every area of the club; front of house, in the background, on the pitch, in the boardroom, the playing surface isn't as good as it once was, PR or lack of, media training or lack of, the trust despite their hard work, the stadium and supporter comforts - everything needs updating and investing in.

If Jolley as someone said earlier is not happy with what he has seen, he can either become an all time legend by dragging the club into the 21st century, but sadly once he meets the immovable object that is Fenty he will probably leave him to it, and move on to better things sad to say.

This is the dilema, and is at the heart of any discussion about GTFC; will we ever make any significant progress with an owner in charge who not only makes every wrong decision imaginable but refuses point blank to accept any blame and worse still refuses to change?
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will we ever make any significant progress with an owner in charge who not only makes every wrong decision imaginable


My point exactly, Fenty is forever labelled as making every wrong decision, no credit whatsoever for appointing Jolley, yes I know it was almost too late but as everyone thinks Jolley is the dogs balderdash surely Fenty gets just one positive mark



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My point exactly, Fenty is forever labelled as making every wrong decision, no credit whatsoever for appointing Jolley, yes I know it was almost too late but as everyone thinks Jolley is the dogs balderdash surely Fenty gets just one positive mark



The law of averages suggest that eventually he would get one thing right, so no plus points from me.

Grimsby Town is still a relatively big name in the lower divisions so I would fully expect some high class candidates to apply - lets hope this proves to be the case with Michael Jolley. At least we all (nearly all) are right behind him so that is a good start.
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Quoted from diehardmariner
This feel like a recurring theme with every new manager.

Newell was supposed to bring a new sense of professionalism, driving us away from the old school mentality we had adopted under Buckley Mk III.  Innovative training sessions rather than running for miles on the beach and a game of five-a-side.  Little did we know his innovation stretched as far as the pub for 'team bonding'.

Then came Woods with his modern approach to the game, bringing back the passing and move culture with a modern twist.  Even with relegation came the promise of £1million of investment to the background functions, which amounted to a £150 York Multigym from Argos and a new portable water boiler at Cheapside.

Next up, Hurst (first with Scott).  Young, hungry and dynamic.  Hell, these guys (well, one of them) even knew how to use a computer.  A bloody COMPUTER!!  Forget 2013, this was 3013 with these guys.  From a professionalism point of view, Scott wouldn't know if it hit him on the nose.  Hurst did well to ditch him at the first opportunity and did his best to make the club more professional.  Incidents of playing up were dealt with (Thanoj, I'Anson, Eagle, Brown, Mackreth etc. etc.) and he badly wanted to use sports science to kick forward.  The non-chairman saw a video on YouTube though that said you didn't need that modern jazz though and as long as the players had jam and peanut butter sandwiches they'll be ok.  Hurst left, found a club who were serious about development and now sit a game away from the Championship.  The non-chairman just tried to claim credit for avoiding relegation back to non-league.

In came Bignot with his skinny jeans and a grey tank top.  Pep Guardiola in every sense of the word, apart from that key ingredient - everything.  He talked a good game, he sounded like he knew was he was doing but ultimately he didn't have a bloody clue.  He tried to bring modern technology to training but unfortunately he found his 4G signal at Cheapside was weak, limiting his ability to deliver a training session from a YouTube video on his phone.

Slade - As mentioned above. TV's and a table.  Modern thinking at its finest.  He wanted the players to talk to each other, what's better than shoving them in front of a TV with 15-to-1 on whilst they eat their chicken dippers and oven chips.  Slade was a dab hand with Microsoft Powerpoint, which went down great for the radio audience.  

Good luck Michael.  You're going to bloody well need it!


Post of the week won already then. Depressingly bang on.
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My point exactly, Fenty is forever labelled as making every wrong decision, no credit whatsoever for appointing Jolley, yes I know it was almost too late but as everyone thinks Jolley is the dogs balderdash surely Fenty gets just one positive mark



If he'd been Fenty's first choice then maybe, but he wasn't.
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A £1 million buyout clause for two 3/4 div managers?!?!? A pint of whatever you ve been drinking please chief!

Put that into perspective, according to The the LMA the average managers wage in league two a couple of years go was £50k a year.



Well I can recommend the Doombar I drink down the local, however, I am told, by a guy who financially supports Lincoln’s Junior teams, that Cowleys were appointed on over £100k per annum, prior to recent contract renewal which may be the second this they arrived, plus a rental property.

Also told that buy out clause is correct. I am not saying Lincoln would get that much but is a good starting point!!

Anyway enough about Lincoln MJ is the man 😄😄
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