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You watching the Man Utd game Ginny?
I am indeed and Mourinho did cross my mind when i posted. I was going to say in my post that it could all change for Hurst if he had the budget to sign better quality players. He may then change tack, but not so sure he has it in his nature Don't know what Mourinho's excuse is. He seems to have turned Pogba into a defensive midfielder. They are very boring to watch and Man Utd fans are moaning about his negativity. Even fans of the very biggest clubs with all the best players find something to moan about.
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Hmmm not one ounce of appreciation there TRRFC. Yes some of his team selections, tactics, signings, interviews were odd, frustrating but he got us promoted (maybe eventually to some) but i thank Paul for bringing back that spark to the club when things went dark. We got relegated and the club had that rotten feeling about the place. PH came in and and brought back belief and enthusiasm....then finally got us promoted.
I still cant believe that hurst out banner and i can only imagine it was done by a not very nice person and probably not really a fan. Now id expect that when RS was in charge especially after no win in 12 games.
So yeah thank you Paul for getting us back to where we belong (wanna another go we may need you soon 😂)
How right you are Meza. Not one ounce of appreciation. There was nothing special in my opinion about taking 5 years to get promotion even allowing for Woods spending the parachute money on some right dross. I cannot comment on the lad as a person because like everyone else I only know what he showed and said publicly. One thing that I did notice was his lack of enthusiasm for Operation Promotion. You would have thought a manager would have been saying how he was absolutely chuffed to ribbons that the fans were backing the side like that, but he seemed to see it as extra pressure from the terraces to deliver on the pitch. He gave me the impression that some of his team sheets especially when he left out Bogle and Amond were almost a message to the fans of "You might have raised the cash but I'm in charge here." And, as a match winning football manager tactician I did not rate him very highly at all. He has done well at Shrewsbury so far though and perhaps he has learned how to build a side more quickly. He has certainly signed some good quality loanees from Championship clubs as well. I don't know why he was not able to sign better players for us, obviously not Championship but certainly L1 after we were promoted. He dismantled the team but the replacements were not exactly brilliant. Maybe the budget and maybe that was why he went, who knows?
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February 21, 2018, 9:13pm |
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The Spanish are the biggest cheats in World football, that young kid Scott McTominay has had a great game.....and he's English
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February 21, 2018, 9:17pm |
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How right you are Meza. Not one ounce of appreciation. There was nothing special in my opinion about taking 5 years to get promotion even allowing for Woods spending the parachute money on some right dross. I cannot comment on the lad as a person because like everyone else I only know what he showed and said publicly. One thing that I did notice was his lack of enthusiasm for Operation Promotion. You would have thought a manager would have been saying how he was absolutely chuffed to ribbons that the fans were backing the side like that, but he seemed to see it as extra pressure from the terraces to deliver on the pitch. He gave me the impression that some of his team sheets especially when he left out Bogle and Amond were almost a message to the fans of "You might have raised the cash but I'm in charge here." And, as a match winning football manager tactician I did not rate him very highly at all. He has done well at Shrewsbury so far though and perhaps he has learned how to build a side more quickly. He has certainly signed some good quality loanees from Championship clubs as well. I don't know why he was not able to sign better players for us, obviously not Championship but certainly L1 after we were promoted. He dismantled the team but the replacements were not exactly brilliant. Maybe the budget and maybe that was why he went, who knows?
Dont get me wrong TRRFC therewas times i even posted about him mostly after a defeat. I didnt like his interviews but having said that his area was management not PR lol. Yes i completely agree about OP ungrateful so and so 😂.
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February 21, 2018, 9:18pm |
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I hardly think getting every team he's managed promoted, then taking over a struggling Shrewsbury, keeping them up and then on a very small budget for the league taking them to the brink of promotion to the Championship proves anything.
Non league promotions , still think Blackburn Wigan and Rotherham will be promoted
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February 21, 2018, 9:32pm |
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I looked forward to away games under Hurst, this season have not gone to Crawley or Cambridge for the first time,
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February 21, 2018, 10:17pm |
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Well he didn’t did he? Somebody else did. More names than asked which also included ex Barcelona, Bayern Munich and current Man City boss Pep Guardiola. Not exactly relevant to the point whatosoever and he’d be shite in the Conference without an FGR budget.
If you deduct all of those it's still more than five. He was asked to name five better young managers. Nowt about the Conference. And Hurst isn't a Conference manager. Are you now moving the goalposts?
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February 21, 2018, 10:50pm |
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He might be moving the goalposts but the reply seemed to deliberately misconstrue the question. Why include Guardiola? People like Lee Johnson, Dean Smith and Pochettino haven’t actually won anything either.
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February 22, 2018, 9:14am |
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Yeah and Seville players seem to have 1 leg longer than the other as they are always falling over lol.
Ok....did anyone else immediately think of Ian Knight when they read this ?
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The lack of good young English managers is more about the unwillingness of league boards to appoint them than about the availability of talent. The trend for foreign managers is now taking over in the Championship and will be moving down to L1 and L2 soon.
It’s a vicious circle as it is with the players. Fewer English appointments means less opportunity for local talent to show and therefore fewer English appointments. More managers like the Cowleys are having to start a career a long way down the pyramid and it is pot luck who makes it further up. I have my doubts how far the Cowleys will get. Lincoln has to get another promotion for their careers to progress and there is a limit to what they can achieve when this year’s cash windfalls run out.
Hurst left at the right time for him. He is untainted by failure so he needs to keep that reputation. Probably he will move on this year or next. His little pique about the support is a bit of a giveaway to what he wants - a Sheffield club.
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