Paul Hurst vs Shrews Fans!

I see Paul Hurst is starting to turn on the fans as he did during his time at Town.

Very good manager of football players/teams, but he never has been able to manage his relationship with the fans. Fenty said it himself "Paul hated the fans". I genuinely think he has a dislike for fans in general and, especially those with an opinion and is always quick to turn on them when things dont go right.

As a Shrews fan pointed out, 3 games in quick succession is unaffordable for some, midweek games are difficult to arrange child care for etc... Things Paul clearly doesn't understand.

Another also pointed out that Paul never publicly shows any appreciation for the travelling fans at away games, despite travelling some distance!

It's good to see some things don't change!

https://www.shropshirestar.com.....rie-home-atmosphere/

Hell be cupping his ear again if they go up then

Nice to see Toto copulated up again (nothing changes there )

Well to be fair i think the Shrewsbury fans have been spoilt by the season so far ....

The only normal post match comments  missing from Hurst was  "we didn't lose the game"

Without witnessing the whole game the result looks so typical of Hurst , 1-0 lead, succumb to a late equaliser. How many times did we see "us" sit back after getting a lead and chuck it away ?

4th home game without a win.

No way they will fall from the play offs but hanging onto automatic spots now, given the early 12 (?) points lead they had earlier in the season then fans will be getting nervous.

Some bitter people on this forum.

Not surprised by Hurst at all and glad he copulated off to Shrewsbury

He's right though - imagine what their fans would be like if they were struggling to a 0-0 draw with relegation fodder Southport. They'd be worse than those awful Grimsby fans

Sounds to me like Hurst is absolutely correct.

Don't think he has said anything there that is controversial

Never understood the whole doesn't appreciate the fans thing. He always used to come over and clap, and there were loads of times he mentioned how good our support was in post match interviews. What more do people want?

What i really want is a manager to get the business done on the pitch. Don't really care what he does outside of that (within reason! ) I certainly don't need a handwritten letter from them thanking me for attending every match.

With regards to Hurst in particular, the ear cupping incident was aimed at a minority (as he explained in interviews) and didn't bother me TBH, when you consider the HURST OUT banners whilst we were still in the playoffs.

And the infamous 'Spoilt' comment was a tiny thing completely blown out of proportion and used as a stick to beat him with when things weren't going our way.

Yes, he says things he perhaps shouldn't do sometimes, but he gets the business done on the pitch.

I would like to think that more than 5000 would turn out if we had the chance to go top of League 2, never mind League 1.

perhaps hes been spoilt by the town fans

Far too many precious Town fans on here
"Pleased he copulated off to Shrewsbury" - what? cos he didn't blow you kisses?

Yeah, I'm really pleased we lost one of the best young managers in the country

Alan Buckley never had a love in with the fans - he was almost embarrassed IMO when the fans sang "give us a wave" and he felt compelled to wave back... ah, bless!

As long as a manager is not downright dismissive of fans then that's fine - a number of managers are not the best at showing emotion etc but they get the job done which is what we all want, surely

Cue "it took Hurst 6 years blah blah"

Move on....

I'm not particularly arsed about Hursts time at Shrewsbury but I would say one thing, it's extraordinary how his teams meltdowns come at EXACTLY the same time of year, every year.

It's funny how he complains that 5,000 Shrews fans are too quiet yet once said his Grimsby team didn't perform as they were nervous in front of 4,000 noisy fans at BP.
For all that he's good at what he does, he was a very hard working manager and will always have success to some degree, and this is down to his stubbornness and single-minded will to stick to his gameplan.

Nothing too wrong with that but downfall is his personality, he's grumpy, prickly and unwilling to even consider anything that goes even slightly against 'the plan'. That's admirable in some ways but as some fans in the past, and at his present club have said, he sometimes fixates on this and it becomes a bit of a distraction.

Only a matter of time before he gets a Yorkshire club IMO, won`t be happy until he`s does  

I think he'll be exactly the same character whether he's managing in Shropshire, Yorkshire or Nebraska.

Quoted from devs

Far too many precious Town fans on here
"Pleased he copulated off to Shrewsbury" - what? cos he didn't blow you kisses?

Yeah, I'm really pleased we lost one of the best young managers in the country

Alan Buckley never had a love in with the fans - he was almost embarrassed IMO when the fans sang "give us a wave" and he felt compelled to wave back... ah, bless!

As long as a manager is not downright dismissive of fans then that's fine - a number of managers are not the best at showing emotion etc but they get the job done which is what we all want, surely

Cue "it took Hurst 6 years blah blah"

Move on....

I am and don't make me laugh.

Like him. Wish him well with his career. Took us out of a league that is notoriously a nightmare to get out of. He'll manage in the premier league.

To clarify, I like Paul Hurst as manager, wasn't always pretty but it was effective and we're seeing now what a good manager he is.

What I didn't agree with with was his disdain and lack of appreciation for the fans!

I'd have Paul Hurst back as Town manager in a shot, he knows how to set a team up, great eye for a player and we would never been under threat of relegation under him.

Quoted from pontoonlew

I'm not particularly arsed about Hursts time at Shrewsbury but I would say one thing, it's extraordinary how his teams meltdowns come at EXACTLY the same time of year, every year.

A meltdown at the top of league one sounds blissful compared to where we are

Quoted from ackomariner

I am and don't make me laugh.

Fancy naming five better young managers in the 92 then?

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

What I didn't agree with with was his disdain and lack of appreciation for the fans!

Because the fans are whiny,entitled and only happy when we are winning games 7:0 and even then if we lose the next week they will instantly turn on the players,management and club. The fans of GTFC feel like management and players should kiss their arses because "we pay your wages" and that they should love the area and move here.

Personally don't care as long as they produce results if they kiss the bottom of fans or not. Who was the last manager we had that had a truly good relationship with the fans? Fans loved him and he loved the fans? Which manager was never turned on the second things didn't go so well?

Quoted from LH

Fancy naming five better young managers in the 92 then?

Don't have to because imo he isn't one of the best. If getting promotion from the conference by having your hand forced to change the team in the second leg and the final makes you one of the best then so be it.
But I'm adamant, that if Monkhouse never got injured for the second leg against Braintree then we wouldn't have got to the final, because Hurst would've played him regardless and was imo again, a big weak point in the team. People moaned about him for months as a weak option, but Hurst dug his heels in and stuck two fingers up at the fans.
All about opinions mate and that's how I see it

As Joni Mitchell said “Don’t it always seem to go, That you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.”?

Seems that way on this thread. We do tend to think of the good and ignore the rest.

By the time he left it seemed like Hurst had been atBP since it was built. He is your archetypal percentage manager, the non-league equivalent of Allardyce.  It’s true he might be able to avoid relegation though in fact that is yet to be proven. There was never much chance of Town going further down.

As a promotion manager he works on the principle that a team starts with one point and if that is how it stays, that is a result. Anything else is a bonus. His team building and selections over 6 years were all on that principle.

Fine. I don’t object to not losing, but a lot of fans did get a bit lairy about not winning against some pretty dire teams in the conference. Have we forgotten that? Or the strikers he signed and then left out in favour of players who would have been useless strikers even for Slade? Or the Route One that fans consistently complained about? Or the fact that he was the dismantler of the promotion side before he bu99ered off to Shrewsbury?

He is a good basic manager who will probably get his side to the play offs this year. My bet is they will not get promoted if they need to do it that way because he has a one-track mentality and little imagination when it comes to game changing tactics and selections in a one-off game. By the look of things and reading what Hurst says, they are in a trough. If one or two sides below them get on a winning run they could be caught and their goal difference is poor.

Quoted from Kris2

Because the fans are whiny,entitled and only happy when we are winning games 7:0 and even then if we lose the next week they will instantly turn on the players,management and club. The fans of GTFC feel like management and players should kiss their arses because "we pay your wages" and that they should love the area and move here.

Personally don't care as long as they produce results if they kiss the bottom of fans or not. Who was the last manager we had that had a truly good relationship with the fans? Fans loved him and he loved the fans? Which manager was never turned on the second things didn't go so well?

I remember thousands of us whining like fuckk against FGR at Wembley.  When the final whistle went we just stood there, shaking our heads in disbelief that we hadn’t won 7-0.
How the fuk the players and management got out in one piece I’ll never know. Indeed, the very next week, the players where on a bus into Cleethorpes when the fans attacked the bus and ripped the roof off. Fortunately the players had the promotion trophy which they waved about to protect themselves from flying bricks. To an outsider it would almost look like a promotion party.   But fortunately Kris is around to remind us all that Town fans are scum and the Town itself is a disgrace. Thank fuk for that eh.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

He'll manage in the premier league.

A bit like Bogle was going to play in the Premier league?

I also totally agree regarding the Monkhouse comment and believe we would most probably still be in the National league had he not been injured.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

It’s true he might be able to avoid relegation though in fact that is yet to be proven.

Last season?

Quoted from ackomariner

Don't have to because imo he isn't one of the best. If getting promotion from the conference by having your hand forced to change the team in the second leg and the final makes you one of the best then so be it.
But I'm adamant, that if Monkhouse never got injured for the second leg against Braintree then we wouldn't have got to the final, because Hurst would've played him regardless and was imo again, a big weak point in the team. People moaned about him for months as a weak option, but Hurst dug his heels in and stuck two fingers up at the fans.
All about opinions mate and that's how I see it

If it wasn't for a terrible refereeing decision and penalties we would have been promoted the year before. If it wasn't for a separate terrible refereeing decision at Gateshead we might well have been promoted 2 years earlier. If you consistently finish near the top of your table and continuously sign players that improve the team you get breaks eventually. People who rattle off the Monkhouse injury come across as desperate in their search for reasons not to give credit where it's due.

Quoted from ackomariner

Don't have to because imo he isn't one of the best. If getting promotion from the conference by having your hand forced to change the team in the second leg and the final makes you one of the best then so be it.
But I'm adamant, that if Monkhouse never got injured for the second leg against Braintree then we wouldn't have got to the final, because Hurst would've played him regardless and was imo again, a big weak point in the team. People moaned about him for months as a weak option, but Hurst dug his heels in and stuck two fingers up at the fans.
All about opinions mate and that's how I see it

So you can’t name five better young managers than him and base your opinion entirely on him playing a player you didn’t like too much? For four years he took a team with a top five budget into the top five and has moved on and kept a club them in their division against the odds in his first season and looks to be on course to exceed expectations and make at least the play offs in his second. Add to that the two promotions prior to joining Town and he is - like it or not - one of the best young managers in the country and is proving a lot on here wrong. The midget yorkie girl private.

Quoted from LH

Fancy naming five better young managers in the 92 then?

Eddie Howe
Sean Dyche
Mauricio Pochettino
Chris Hughton
David Wagner
Dean Smith
Lee Johnson
Pep Guardiola
Gary Rowett
Daniel Farke
Nuno Espirito Santo
Alex Neil
Aitor Karanka
Paul Heckingbottom

All this talk of Monkhouse being injured being the reason we achieved promotion... He was a first choice player in a team that was in the playoff places pretty much all season!

As for him being too stubborn to change players when the fans are crying out for it...we’ll, he was the manager? It was his choice to make, not ours.

Unless you’re a big 6 team, it’s incredibly difficult to stay in the top 6 of any league for 4 consecutive season. Hurst’s football was dour, with questionable subs, a lack of goalscoring ability and obvious favourites. But he signed good, hardworking honest players, always had a good team spirit, won promotion at each of his previous clubs whilst also unearthing some gems along the way. He’ll end up at a high end Championship/low PL club and I hope he gets Shrews promoted this season.

Typical of the whinging illegitimate. Shrewsbury's a town of 50,000 people. What does he expect?

All fans are fickle and hard to please, myself included. On my daily walk today, i was joined by my brother, and he was telling me about a table he had seen of the best performing sides in terms of wins over the last three seasons. Scunny were in the top 5. The same Scunny that sit 5th in League 1, despite having a p1ss poor fan base. Those very same fans are calling for his head because of a recent blip. In the top 5 performing sides in the country over a sustained period and it's not good enough for them.

The problem with Hurst is that his pragmatic nature, on and off the pitch, will never endear him to the fans. He just isn't someone who people naturally warm to, and his teams reflect that. Boring winning football is still boring. It's better than boring losing football, but the novelty wears off eventually and fans want a bit of excitement on a Saturday. Slade had the same problem in his first spell here.

Quoted from Bigdog

Eddie Howe
Sean Dyche
Mauricio Pochettino
Chris Hughton
David Wagner
Dean Smith
Lee Johnson
Pep Guardiola
Gary Rowett
Daniel Farke
Nuno Espirito Santo
Alex Neil
Aitor Karanka
Paul Heckingbottom

Just to be really pedantic, Chris Hughton is 59

Quoted from Abdul19

Just to be really pedantic, Chris Hughton is 59

Oh yeah..

Hasn't he aged well?

Damn you Abdul.. Damn you  

Quoted from Abdul19

Just to be really pedantic, Chris Hughton is 59

I should have said homegrown managers really. I forget that Championship clubs like to go to the Bundesliga and get their B team coaches now.

Quoted from LH

I should have said homegrown managers really. I forget that Championship clubs like to go to the Bundesliga and get their B team coaches now.

He still gave more names than asked for though

I hardly think getting every team he's managed promoted, then taking over a struggling Shrewsbury, keeping them up and then on a very small budget for the league taking them to the brink of promotion to the Championship proves anything.

Don't forget Hurst had one of the best budgets year in year out and the promotion year we struggled only just scraping into the play offs, I bet even slade would of made play offs with our budget. Hurst is nothing special and I fully expect (as I predicted when they were top of the league) to not make automatic promotion.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

He still gave more names than asked for though

Well he didn’t did he? Somebody else did. More names than asked which also included ex Barcelona, Bayern Munich and current Man City boss Pep Guardiola. Not exactly relevant to the point whatosoever and he’d be shite in the Conference without an FGR budget.

Quoted from LH

So you can’t name five better young managers than him and base your opinion entirely on him playing a player you didn’t like too much? For four years he took a team with a top five budget into the top five and has moved on and kept a club them in their division against the odds in his first season and looks to be on course to exceed expectations and make at least the play offs in his second. Add to that the two promotions prior to joining Town and he is - like it or not - one of the best young managers in the country and is proving a lot on here wrong. The midget yorkie girl private.

I think you realise that Monkhouse and the Braintree Experience is not quoted as a one-off but because it is symptomatic of the Hurst siege mentality and his reliance on the long ball tactic. The only reason Monkhouse was in the side was because Hurst saw how he had played against us and wanted to use him as a Route One option to replace LJL, the ball being hoofed diagonally to the left where theoretically Monkhouse would nod it on. Fine except that every man and his dog in the Conference knew about it and all season the Town team just kept playing into the hands of lesser quality sides by using it.

In fact the team had always played much better when Monkhouse was not there and they had to play something that resembled proper football but once fit he was always put straight back in and the old habits came back. His injury forced Hurst’s hand in the semi-final after the first leg had shown Braintree were perfectly capable of dealing with 50 yard hoofs. They could not cope with the ball on the ground which the Town team used effectively as they had shown they could when allowed to in other games.

If Hurst had been more flexible, less dogmatic and less downright stupid in his tactics and selections earlier in the season with Bogle and Amond there was every chance of automatic promotion, but he gifted no end of points away in cautious draws and even defeats with this Route One obsession and picking strikers who were truly clueless. His stubbornness  knew no bounds.

If those are the signs of a “good young manager” heaven help the poor old ones!

Does anybody know if Shrewsbury have had a taller than average winger injured for the past 16 months?

All fans whinge at some point because not every team can win something all the time....the exception at the moment are probably Man City fans who by and large can remember them being the old Man City who were sh!te and in Div 3...now they are arguably one of the best teams in Europe in terms of success and football pleasure so they are happy.
Man Utd fans arent exactly over the moon with what they are watching under Mourhinio and they are playing Champions League tonight.

Under Hurst we had several seasons of almost...nearly....just falling short...feeling ultimately disappointed.  That on top of what most seasons was suffering disappointing home form, from memory i am sure we failed to win more games than we actually won for a couple of seasons at least.
Several seasons of that, especialy when it was the "same" story when we did....couldnt break teams down, concede a goal maybe scrape a draw, take the lead sit back and maybe scrape a draw, 70 minute like for like sub, no plan B etc.


Shrews fans are probably already recognising some of the above and showing it. Hurst see's it as a fans problem...fans see it as a Hurst problem.    Quick snippet from one of their threads on the same post match comments...the bit in brackets i am sure we can all recognise.

PH is probably trying to get the fans to lift a tired and jaded squad. The manager has done an amazing job despite the odd niggle (selection is a bit samey, loyalists to off form players and substitutions often too late to impact) but ultimately he's doing an amazing job and if wants to the fans to pick up the noise we have to try.

Don't think it's a dig at anyone he's just trying to get through the dip in form.

Quoted from moosey_club

Shrews fans are probably already recognising some of the above and showing it. Hurst see's it as a fans problem...fans see it as a Hurst problem.

Yep.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I think you realise that Monkhouse and the Braintree Experience is not quoted as a one-off but because it is symptomatic of the Hurst siege mentality and his reliance on the long ball tactic. The only reason Monkhouse was in the side was because Hurst saw how he had played against us and wanted to use him as a Route One option to replace LJL, the ball being hoofed diagonally to the left where theoretically Monkhouse would nod it on. Fine except that every man and his dog in the Conference knew about it and all season the Town team just kept playing into the hands of lesser quality sides by using it.

In fact the team had always played much better when Monkhouse was not there and they had to play something that resembled proper football but once fit he was always put straight back in and the old habits came back. His injury forced Hurst’s hand in the semi-final after the first leg had shown Braintree were perfectly capable of dealing with 50 yard hoofs. They could not cope with the ball on the ground which the Town team used effectively as they had shown they could when allowed to in other games.

If Hurst had been more flexible, less dogmatic and less downright stupid in his tactics and selections earlier in the season with Bogle and Amond there was every chance of automatic promotion, but he gifted no end of points away in cautious draws and even defeats with this Route One obsession and picking strikers who were truly clueless. His stubbornness  knew no bounds.

If those are the signs of a “good young manager” heaven help the poor old ones!

Hmmm not one ounce of appreciation there TRRFC.   Yes some of his team selections, tactics, signings, interviews were odd, frustrating but he got us promoted (maybe eventually to some) but i thank Paul for bringing back that spark to the club when things went dark.  We got relegated and the club had that rotten feeling about the place.  PH came in and and brought back belief and enthusiasm....then finally got us promoted.  

I still cant believe that hurst out banner and i can only imagine it was done by a not very nice person and probably not really a fan.  Now id expect that when RS was in charge especially after no win in 12 games.

So yeah thank you Paul for getting us back to where we belong (wanna another go we may need you soon 😂)

Ultimately, Hurst is too cautious to go right to the top as a manager i think. You have to be brave and take risks, and it goes against the grain with him. He's still a good manager, but will more likely get a team up through the play offs, than through automatic promotion. His teams won't score many, won't concede many, but will likely be in with a shout in the final shake up. If he does indeed end up at one of the big Yorkshire clubs, they will be even less patient with him as the stakes rise and expectation becomes greater.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I would like to think that more than 5000 would turn out if we had the chance to go top of League 2, never mind League 1.

Course, we're a bigger club than Shrewsbury. It's amazing John Fenty believes he only went there as he hated our fans. Look closer to home methinks John.

Quoted from ginnywings

Ultimately, Hurst is too cautious to go right to the top as a manager i think. You have to be brave and take risks, and it goes against the grain with him. He's still a good manager, but will more likely get a team up through the play offs, than through automatic promotion. His teams won't score many, won't concede many, but will likely be in with a shout in the final shake up. If he does indeed end up at one of the big Yorkshire clubs, they will be even less patient with him as the stakes rise and expectation becomes greater.

You watching the Man Utd game Ginny?

Yeah and Seville players seem to have 1 leg longer than the other as they are always falling over lol.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

You watching the Man Utd game Ginny?

I am indeed and Mourinho did cross my mind when i posted. I was going to say in my post that it could all change for Hurst if he had the budget to sign better quality players. He may then change tack, but not so sure he has it in his nature

Don't know what Mourinho's excuse is. He seems to have turned Pogba into a defensive midfielder. They are very boring to watch and Man Utd fans are moaning about his negativity. Even fans of the very biggest clubs with all the best players find something to moan about.

Quoted from Meza

Hmmm not one ounce of appreciation there TRRFC.   Yes some of his team selections, tactics, signings, interviews were odd, frustrating but he got us promoted (maybe eventually to some) but i thank Paul for bringing back that spark to the club when things went dark.  We got relegated and the club had that rotten feeling about the place.  PH came in and and brought back belief and enthusiasm....then finally got us promoted.  

I still cant believe that hurst out banner and i can only imagine it was done by a not very nice person and probably not really a fan.  Now id expect that when RS was in charge especially after no win in 12 games.

So yeah thank you Paul for getting us back to where we belong (wanna another go we may need you soon 😂)

How right you are Meza. Not one ounce of appreciation.   There was nothing special in my opinion about taking 5 years to get promotion even allowing for Woods spending the parachute money on some right dross.

I cannot comment on the lad as a person because like everyone else I only know what he showed and said publicly. One thing that I did notice was his lack of enthusiasm for Operation Promotion. You would have thought a manager would have been saying how he was absolutely chuffed to ribbons that the fans were backing the side like that, but he seemed to see it as extra pressure from the terraces to deliver on the pitch. He gave me the impression that some of his team sheets especially when he left out Bogle and Amond were almost a message to the fans of "You might have raised the cash but I'm in charge here."

And, as a match winning football manager tactician I did not rate him very highly at all. He has done well at Shrewsbury so far though and perhaps he has learned how to build a side more quickly. He has certainly signed some good quality loanees from Championship clubs as well. I don't know why he was not able to sign better players for us, obviously not Championship but certainly L1 after we were promoted. He dismantled the team but the replacements were not exactly brilliant. Maybe the budget and maybe that was why he went, who knows?

The Spanish are the biggest cheats in World football, that young kid Scott McTominay has had a great game.....and he's English  

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

How right you are Meza. Not one ounce of appreciation.   There was nothing special in my opinion about taking 5 years to get promotion even allowing for Woods spending the parachute money on some right dross.

I cannot comment on the lad as a person because like everyone else I only know what he showed and said publicly. One thing that I did notice was his lack of enthusiasm for Operation Promotion. You would have thought a manager would have been saying how he was absolutely chuffed to ribbons that the fans were backing the side like that, but he seemed to see it as extra pressure from the terraces to deliver on the pitch. He gave me the impression that some of his team sheets especially when he left out Bogle and Amond were almost a message to the fans of "You might have raised the cash but I'm in charge here."

And, as a match winning football manager tactician I did not rate him very highly at all. He has done well at Shrewsbury so far though and perhaps he has learned how to build a side more quickly. He has certainly signed some good quality loanees from Championship clubs as well. I don't know why he was not able to sign better players for us, obviously not Championship but certainly L1 after we were promoted. He dismantled the team but the replacements were not exactly brilliant. Maybe the budget and maybe that was why he went, who knows?

Dont get me wrong TRRFC therewas times i even posted about him mostly after a defeat.  I didnt like his interviews but having said that his area was management not PR lol.  

Yes i completely agree about OP ungrateful so and so 😂.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I hardly think getting every team he's managed promoted, then taking over a struggling Shrewsbury, keeping them up and then on a very small budget for the league taking them to the brink of promotion to the Championship proves anything.

Non league promotions , still think Blackburn Wigan and Rotherham will be promoted

I looked forward to away games under Hurst, this season have not gone to Crawley or Cambridge for the first time,

Quoted from LH

Well he didn’t did he? Somebody else did. More names than asked which also included ex Barcelona, Bayern Munich and current Man City boss Pep Guardiola. Not exactly relevant to the point whatosoever and he’d be shite in the Conference without an FGR budget.

If you deduct all of those it's still more than five. He was asked to name five better young managers. Nowt about the Conference. And Hurst isn't a Conference manager. Are you now moving the goalposts?  

Quoted from KingstonMariner

If you deduct all of those it's still more than five. He was asked to name five better young managers. Nowt about the Conference. And Hurst isn't a Conference manager. Are you now moving the goalposts?  

He might be moving the goalposts but the reply seemed to deliberately misconstrue the question. Why include Guardiola? People like Lee Johnson, Dean Smith and Pochettino haven’t actually won anything either.

Quoted from Meza

Yeah and Seville players seem to have 1 leg longer than the other as they are always falling over lol.

Ok....did anyone else immediately think of Ian Knight when they read this ?  

The lack of good young English managers is more about the unwillingness of league boards to appoint them than about the availability of talent. The trend for foreign managers is now taking over in the Championship and will be moving down to L1 and L2 soon.

It’s a vicious circle as it is with the players. Fewer English appointments means less opportunity for local talent to show and therefore fewer English appointments.  More managers like the Cowleys are having to start a career a long way down the pyramid and it is pot luck who makes it further up. I have my doubts how far the Cowleys will get. Lincoln has to get another promotion for their careers to progress and there is a limit to what they can achieve when this year’s cash windfalls run out.

Hurst left at the right time for him. He is untainted by failure so he needs to keep that reputation. Probably he will move on this year or next. His little pique about the support is a bit of a giveaway to what he wants - a Sheffield club.

This mid season Premier League appointments suggest it's not only foreigners getting in the way of the progress of young British managers - it's old British managers!

whatever we say about PH , he has almost guarenteed his employment for the next 5 years, and with it should come financial independence. therefore he's succeeded for himself and his family. i firmly believe that his percentage football has always been about maintaining himself in a job, having found himself in a very vulnerable position when scott was sacked. he's found a way to succeed/survive and make some decent money at the same time (he also works very very hard). good luck to him, i admire him for all he's achieved

Quoted from pontoonlew

I'm not particularly arsed about Hursts time at Shrewsbury but I would say one thing, it's extraordinary how his teams meltdowns come at EXACTLY the same time of year, every year.

You think his team is having a meltdown??  

Yeah they've only lost six games in the last 33 and are running on 56% wins. Sitting in second place, competing for automatic promotion to the Championship. At the very least they will be in the play off's.

All of this for a team that was staring relegation to League 2 in the face last season before Hursty pitched up.

I'd take a bit of that right now wouldn't you? You know what, even in the unlikely event that Shrewsbury was to just miss out on the play off's, then that would have to be judged as progress in Paul Hurst's first full season in charge of building something there.

I work with Martyn Bunce at Boston United and he was involved with Paul Hurst when he was there with Rob Scott. Bunny and I are on a course together at the moment, and he was telling me last week what a fantastic coach Paul Hurst is, an absolute meticulous grafter.

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whatever we say about PH , he has almost guarenteed his employment for the next 5 years, and with it should come financial independence. therefore he's succeeded for himself and his family. i firmly believe that his percentage football has always been about maintaining himself in a job, having found himself in a very vulnerable position when scott was sacked. he's found a way to succeed/survive and make some decent money at the same time (he also works very very hard). good luck to him, i admire him for all he's achieved

Agree with this.  I wasn't sad to see him go, but it is the old 'you don't know what you've got till it's gone'.  I think he had taken Town as far as he could.  But that is because of the limitations placed on him by JF and Co and not a reflection of his ability.  I think it took him to walk away to make JF realise that he did have to bring in extra backroom staff.  Although, personally I haven't seen any rewards for this on the pitch.

He certainly knew how to get a team to bond.  And he seemed happy enough for them to bond with the fans. Even if he didn't himself. At this level I think that's more important than some would realise.
I thought the way he left was a bit shabby, but things I have heard (but not confirmed as such) about behind the scenes make me understand why.  I guess he could put up with a bit of stick from the fans, but combined with what he saw was a lack of backing from the board I would think it meant leaving was a no brainer.  And lets be honest, who wouldn't want to work for a bigger company on more money and an opportunity to improve your CV.  I sure as hell would.  The only thing I would say, is that if he does get to manage the Wendy's or the Blunts, he might need to develop a thicker skin for the rougher times. !!!

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i firmly believe that his percentage football has always been about maintaining himself in a job, having found himself in a very vulnerable position when scott was sacked.

Although we scored and conceded more when we went up than the season him and Scott made the playoffs.