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Kris2
February 21, 2018, 6:15pm
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Quoted from Mighty_Mariner


What I didn't agree with with was his disdain and lack of appreciation for the fans!



Because the fans are whiny,entitled and only happy when we are winning games 7:0 and even then if we lose the next week they will instantly turn on the players,management and club. The fans of GTFC feel like management and players should kiss their arses because "we pay your wages" and that they should love the area and move here.

Personally don't care as long as they produce results if they kiss the bottom of fans or not. Who was the last manager we had that had a truly good relationship with the fans? Fans loved him and he loved the fans? Which manager was never turned on the second things didn't go so well?
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Quoted from LH


Fancy naming five better young managers in the 92 then?


Don't have to because imo he isn't one of the best. If getting promotion from the conference by having your hand forced to change the team in the second leg and the final makes you one of the best then so be it.
But I'm adamant, that if Monkhouse never got injured for the second leg against Braintree then we wouldn't have got to the final, because Hurst would've played him regardless and was imo again, a big weak point in the team. People moaned about him for months as a weak option, but Hurst dug his heels in and stuck two fingers up at the fans.
All about opinions mate and that's how I see it


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As Joni Mitchell said “Don’t it always seem to go, That you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.”?

Seems that way on this thread. We do tend to think of the good and ignore the rest.

By the time he left it seemed like Hurst had been atBP since it was built. He is your archetypal percentage manager, the non-league equivalent of Allardyce.  It’s true he might be able to avoid relegation though in fact that is yet to be proven. There was never much chance of Town going further down.

As a promotion manager he works on the principle that a team starts with one point and if that is how it stays, that is a result. Anything else is a bonus. His team building and selections over 6 years were all on that principle.

Fine. I don’t object to not losing, but a lot of fans did get a bit lairy about not winning against some pretty dire teams in the conference. Have we forgotten that? Or the strikers he signed and then left out in favour of players who would have been useless strikers even for Slade? Or the Route One that fans consistently complained about? Or the fact that he was the dismantler of the promotion side before he bu99ered off to Shrewsbury?

He is a good basic manager who will probably get his side to the play offs this year. My bet is they will not get promoted if they need to do it that way because he has a one-track mentality and little imagination when it comes to game changing tactics and selections in a one-off game. By the look of things and reading what Hurst says, they are in a trough. If one or two sides below them get on a winning run they could be caught and their goal difference is poor.


“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty."
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Quoted from Kris2


Because the fans are whiny,entitled and only happy when we are winning games 7:0 and even then if we lose the next week they will instantly turn on the players,management and club. The fans of GTFC feel like management and players should kiss their arses because "we pay your wages" and that they should love the area and move here.

Personally don't care as long as they produce results if they kiss the bottom of fans or not. Who was the last manager we had that had a truly good relationship with the fans? Fans loved him and he loved the fans? Which manager was never turned on the second things didn't go so well?


I remember thousands of us whining like fuckk against FGR at Wembley.  When the final whistle went we just stood there, shaking our heads in disbelief that we hadn’t won 7-0.
How the fuk the players and management got out in one piece I’ll never know. Indeed, the very next week, the players where on a bus into Cleethorpes when the fans attacked the bus and ripped the roof off. Fortunately the players had the promotion trophy which they waved about to protect themselves from flying bricks. To an outsider it would almost look like a promotion party.   But fortunately Kris is around to remind us all that Town fans are scum and the Town itself is a disgrace. Thank fuk for that eh.


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She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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He'll manage in the premier league.


A bit like Bogle was going to play in the Premier league?



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I also totally agree regarding the Monkhouse comment and believe we would most probably still be in the National league had he not been injured.
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It’s true he might be able to avoid relegation though in fact that is yet to be proven.


Last season?


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Don't have to because imo he isn't one of the best. If getting promotion from the conference by having your hand forced to change the team in the second leg and the final makes you one of the best then so be it.
But I'm adamant, that if Monkhouse never got injured for the second leg against Braintree then we wouldn't have got to the final, because Hurst would've played him regardless and was imo again, a big weak point in the team. People moaned about him for months as a weak option, but Hurst dug his heels in and stuck two fingers up at the fans.
All about opinions mate and that's how I see it


If it wasn't for a terrible refereeing decision and penalties we would have been promoted the year before. If it wasn't for a separate terrible refereeing decision at Gateshead we might well have been promoted 2 years earlier. If you consistently finish near the top of your table and continuously sign players that improve the team you get breaks eventually. People who rattle off the Monkhouse injury come across as desperate in their search for reasons not to give credit where it's due.
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Quoted from ackomariner


Don't have to because imo he isn't one of the best. If getting promotion from the conference by having your hand forced to change the team in the second leg and the final makes you one of the best then so be it.
But I'm adamant, that if Monkhouse never got injured for the second leg against Braintree then we wouldn't have got to the final, because Hurst would've played him regardless and was imo again, a big weak point in the team. People moaned about him for months as a weak option, but Hurst dug his heels in and stuck two fingers up at the fans.
All about opinions mate and that's how I see it


So you can’t name five better young managers than him and base your opinion entirely on him playing a player you didn’t like too much? For four years he took a team with a top five budget into the top five and has moved on and kept a club them in their division against the odds in his first season and looks to be on course to exceed expectations and make at least the play offs in his second. Add to that the two promotions prior to joining Town and he is - like it or not - one of the best young managers in the country and is proving a lot on here wrong. The midget yorkie girl private.
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Quoted from LH


Fancy naming five better young managers in the 92 then?


Eddie Howe
Sean Dyche
Mauricio Pochettino
Chris Hughton
David Wagner
Dean Smith
Lee Johnson
Pep Guardiola
Gary Rowett
Daniel Farke
Nuno Espirito Santo
Alex Neil
Aitor Karanka
Paul Heckingbottom
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