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February 21, 2018, 7:44pm

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He still gave more names than asked for though


Well he didn’t did he? Somebody else did. More names than asked which also included ex Barcelona, Bayern Munich and current Man City boss Pep Guardiola. Not exactly relevant to the point whatosoever and he’d be shite in the Conference without an FGR budget.
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So you can’t name five better young managers than him and base your opinion entirely on him playing a player you didn’t like too much? For four years he took a team with a top five budget into the top five and has moved on and kept a club them in their division against the odds in his first season and looks to be on course to exceed expectations and make at least the play offs in his second. Add to that the two promotions prior to joining Town and he is - like it or not - one of the best young managers in the country and is proving a lot on here wrong. The midget yorkie girl private.


I think you realise that Monkhouse and the Braintree Experience is not quoted as a one-off but because it is symptomatic of the Hurst siege mentality and his reliance on the long ball tactic. The only reason Monkhouse was in the side was because Hurst saw how he had played against us and wanted to use him as a Route One option to replace LJL, the ball being hoofed diagonally to the left where theoretically Monkhouse would nod it on. Fine except that every man and his dog in the Conference knew about it and all season the Town team just kept playing into the hands of lesser quality sides by using it.

In fact the team had always played much better when Monkhouse was not there and they had to play something that resembled proper football but once fit he was always put straight back in and the old habits came back. His injury forced Hurst’s hand in the semi-final after the first leg had shown Braintree were perfectly capable of dealing with 50 yard hoofs. They could not cope with the ball on the ground which the Town team used effectively as they had shown they could when allowed to in other games.

If Hurst had been more flexible, less dogmatic and less downright stupid in his tactics and selections earlier in the season with Bogle and Amond there was every chance of automatic promotion, but he gifted no end of points away in cautious draws and even defeats with this Route One obsession and picking strikers who were truly clueless. His stubbornness  knew no bounds.

If those are the signs of a “good young manager” heaven help the poor old ones!


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Does anybody know if Shrewsbury have had a taller than average winger injured for the past 16 months?
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All fans whinge at some point because not every team can win something all the time....the exception at the moment are probably Man City fans who by and large can remember them being the old Man City who were sh!te and in Div 3...now they are arguably one of the best teams in Europe in terms of success and football pleasure so they are happy.
Man Utd fans arent exactly over the moon with what they are watching under Mourhinio and they are playing Champions League tonight.

Under Hurst we had several seasons of almost...nearly....just falling short...feeling ultimately disappointed.  That on top of what most seasons was suffering disappointing home form, from memory i am sure we failed to win more games than we actually won for a couple of seasons at least.
Several seasons of that, especialy when it was the "same" story when we did....couldnt break teams down, concede a goal maybe scrape a draw, take the lead sit back and maybe scrape a draw, 70 minute like for like sub, no plan B etc.


Shrews fans are probably already recognising some of the above and showing it. Hurst see's it as a fans problem...fans see it as a Hurst problem.    Quick snippet from one of their threads on the same post match comments...the bit in brackets i am sure we can all recognise.

PH is probably trying to get the fans to lift a tired and jaded squad. The manager has done an amazing job despite the odd niggle (selection is a bit samey, loyalists to off form players and substitutions often too late to impact) but ultimately he's doing an amazing job and if wants to the fans to pick up the noise we have to try.

Don't think it's a dig at anyone he's just trying to get through the dip in form.




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Shrews fans are probably already recognising some of the above and showing it. Hurst see's it as a fans problem...fans see it as a Hurst problem.




Yep.


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I think you realise that Monkhouse and the Braintree Experience is not quoted as a one-off but because it is symptomatic of the Hurst siege mentality and his reliance on the long ball tactic. The only reason Monkhouse was in the side was because Hurst saw how he had played against us and wanted to use him as a Route One option to replace LJL, the ball being hoofed diagonally to the left where theoretically Monkhouse would nod it on. Fine except that every man and his dog in the Conference knew about it and all season the Town team just kept playing into the hands of lesser quality sides by using it.

In fact the team had always played much better when Monkhouse was not there and they had to play something that resembled proper football but once fit he was always put straight back in and the old habits came back. His injury forced Hurst’s hand in the semi-final after the first leg had shown Braintree were perfectly capable of dealing with 50 yard hoofs. They could not cope with the ball on the ground which the Town team used effectively as they had shown they could when allowed to in other games.

If Hurst had been more flexible, less dogmatic and less downright stupid in his tactics and selections earlier in the season with Bogle and Amond there was every chance of automatic promotion, but he gifted no end of points away in cautious draws and even defeats with this Route One obsession and picking strikers who were truly clueless. His stubbornness  knew no bounds.

If those are the signs of a “good young manager” heaven help the poor old ones!


Hmmm not one ounce of appreciation there TRRFC.   Yes some of his team selections, tactics, signings, interviews were odd, frustrating but he got us promoted (maybe eventually to some) but i thank Paul for bringing back that spark to the club when things went dark.  We got relegated and the club had that rotten feeling about the place.  PH came in and and brought back belief and enthusiasm....then finally got us promoted.  

I still cant believe that hurst out banner and i can only imagine it was done by a not very nice person and probably not really a fan.  Now id expect that when RS was in charge especially after no win in 12 games.

So yeah thank you Paul for getting us back to where we belong (wanna another go we may need you soon 😂)


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Ultimately, Hurst is too cautious to go right to the top as a manager i think. You have to be brave and take risks, and it goes against the grain with him. He's still a good manager, but will more likely get a team up through the play offs, than through automatic promotion. His teams won't score many, won't concede many, but will likely be in with a shout in the final shake up. If he does indeed end up at one of the big Yorkshire clubs, they will be even less patient with him as the stakes rise and expectation becomes greater.
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I would like to think that more than 5000 would turn out if we had the chance to go top of League 2, never mind League 1.


Course, we're a bigger club than Shrewsbury. It's amazing John Fenty believes he only went there as he hated our fans. Look closer to home methinks John.
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Ultimately, Hurst is too cautious to go right to the top as a manager i think. You have to be brave and take risks, and it goes against the grain with him. He's still a good manager, but will more likely get a team up through the play offs, than through automatic promotion. His teams won't score many, won't concede many, but will likely be in with a shout in the final shake up. If he does indeed end up at one of the big Yorkshire clubs, they will be even less patient with him as the stakes rise and expectation becomes greater.


You watching the Man Utd game Ginny?
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Yeah and Seville players seem to have 1 leg longer than the other as they are always falling over lol.


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