That's cost us promotion

Personally I think that it could have a massive impact on them negatively...

Well we all know anything can happen, Bristol Rovers have lost and drew their two games against Forest Green and Eastleigh this season.

Last two playoff seasons I've been totally confident of going all the way and we didn't!  This year I'm not confident, I'm not really superstitious, but maybe it could be a good omen...!

This post is laughably ridiculous amd surely only an example of trolling!

If (and I do mean if!) we don't end up going up loads of things will have cost us, Wrexham, Chester all the way back to the shop missing a sitter agaimst Brizzle in the very first game.

But sod marking your words, if we fail to get promotion I will not spend my time lamenting Dover scoring against Rovers, there will be far more stuff that we have done I will be focusing on.

Also sod worrying about other teams, I am fed up of thinking of other teams, I am a Town fan and I care about Town. We are good enough to do this, will we? I don't know..as I have previously stated I am a pessimist. However lets stop thinking about other teams stopping us, that is the kind of negative thinking that annoys many of us about Hurst and if I am going to moan at him doing it I am not going to do it myself!

Finally what annoys me most about this thread is it is clearly a wind up and yet it has wound me up such that I have had to post and respond to it.

Sod marking words and other teams, We Are Town! Lets do this!

UTM

P.S. Sorry for the rant, few too many drinks this evening I fear!

I get why fans are frustrated with Hurst - even in a season where we've surpassed our previous record points tally in this division, and even in a season where we've had our best away record in living memory (for me, anyway).

There's a feeling that we should be doing more - that we should have already done more.

There's a feeling that, with this squad of players, that we should get ourselves out of this division.

The frustration comes from seeing what many see as our best squad since being in the Conference, and under-achieving.

Perhaps another manager could do more with this group. Perhaps another manager, with better motivational skills, an attacking mindset and a little more tactical nous, could have won us the title already. I get that, I really do.

But I'm not sure 'that' other manager would've been able to build the squad Hurst has done.

What I'm saying is, it's easy to identify the team's (and the manager's) shortcomings when things don't go as well as we'd like, and that there's probably someone else out there who could do better with what we've got - you know, fill the gaps, complete the puzzle etc.

But we wouldn't have what we've currently got, i.e. a very decent squad of players, without Hurst. The next manager might be more attack minded, motivational and tactically astute, but he might be terrible at signing the players we need to get out of the Conference.

I'm generally pro Hurst but recognise his shortcomings and, believe me, I'm as frustrated as the next fan when things don't go so well. But we take a lot of granted.

We seem to believe that the next manager (whoever he is, whenever he takes over) will do everything that Hurst has done, and more.

Chances are, he won't.

Anyway, all we can do is trust Hurst. He hasn't got a great track record with us in the Conference, but he has improved our squad from the one we had this time last year.

He might not be inspirational, but I think he's intelligent enough to know where it went wrong last season, and we should believe he'll know what to do differently this time around.

The pro Hurst brigade are desperate for him to do well, while the anti-Hurst brigade are more desperate to be proved wrong than right.

So that means we're together on this one. Back the lads, back the manager for the next three games at least - hopefully four - and see where we are in just over three weeks' time.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Just because people do not particularly rate Hurst doesn't mean they want him to fail.
I don't rate him and feel that the squad we have has under achieved because (IMO) they do not play to their strengths. Of course I really really hope Hurst proves me wrong and it all goes right when it counts.   I would much rather be eating humble pie than saying 'I told you so'.

This sentence seems to sum up what Hurst is up against. Surely the whole season counts? Yes, it ultimately comes down to a 4 way shoot out, but that doesn't mean that 46 league games that preceded it should be considered as something that any old manager could have done.  We only have about a 25% chance of going up so by phrasing it like that you're stacking the odds heavily in favour of being proved right that Hurst isn't up to it. It's a false conclusion in my opinion, it's just not as black and white as: promotion = genius, defeat = clueless. Even if that is correct, we are still in with a chance of going up yet the stick keeps coming.

There is a seemingly relentless effort on here to find reasons to criticise the guy. We've lost one in 12 and after that one defeat there were loads of posts on here saying it was proof that we bottle it, or mess up when it really counts. Why didn't the other 11 "really count"? We equal the club's all time record for points in a season and does Hurst get a "well done" from anyone here? No, everyone immediately says that it doesn't count as a worthwhile achievement because this is only the conference.

I hate writing posts like this because I don't want to be labelled as blindly following Hurst. I think that entertainment is an important part of the game, and if Hurst's teams are too dull, then that is reasonable grounds for getting rid. I also think it was infuriating the way we started the season with so few options upfront - that was Hurst's fault and it probably cost us a chance of winning this league.

Hurst is relatively new to professional management. He certainly has his flaws, but I think many people are being needlessly hostile and simply refusing to acknowledge he is improving.

The likes of Gary Mills and Steve Burr have often been raised as more talented managers but neither has done any good this year. But nobody previously calling for those 2 to take charge has to retract it, it's just forgotten. There's not been one person saying "it's a good thing we stuck with Hurst because Mills is clearly clueless now". Nope, what happens is other names come in instead. I read a post earlier today saying that if Martin Allen had been in charge we would have won the league. It just feels like a one way street to me and there is virtually nothing Hurst can do to turn it round.

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

This sentence seems to sum up what Hurst is up against. Surely the whole season counts? Yes, it ultimately comes down to a 4 way shoot out, but that doesn't mean that 46 league games that preceded it should be considered as something that any old manager could have done.  We only have about a 25% chance of going up so by phrasing it like that you're stacking the odds heavily in favour of being proved right that Hurst isn't up to it. It's a false conclusion in my opinion, it's just not as black and white as: promotion = genius, defeat = clueless. Even if that is correct, we are still in with a chance of going up yet the stick keeps coming.

There is a seemingly relentless effort on here to find reasons to criticise the guy. We've lost one in 12 and after that one defeat there were loads of posts on here saying it was proof that we bottle it, or mess up when it really counts. Why didn't the other 11 "really count"? We equal the club's all time record for points in a season and does Hurst get a "well done" from anyone here? No, everyone immediately says that it doesn't count as a worthwhile achievement because this is only the conference.

I hate writing posts like this because I don't want to be labelled as blindly following Hurst. I think that entertainment is an important part of the game, and if Hurst's teams are too dull, then that is reasonable grounds for getting rid. I also think it was infuriating the way we started the season with so few options upfront - that was Hurst's fault and it probably cost us a chance of winning this league.

Hurst is relatively new to professional management. He certainly has his flaws, but I think many people are being needlessly hostile and simply refusing to acknowledge he is improving.

The likes of Gary Mills and Steve Burr have often been raised as more talented managers but neither has done any good this year. But nobody previously calling for those 2 to take charge has to retract it, it's just forgotten. There's not been one person saying "it's a good thing we stuck with Hurst because Mills is clearly clueless now". Nope, what happens is other names come in instead. I read a post earlier today saying that if Martin Allen had been in charge we would have won the league. It just feels like a one way street to me and there is virtually nothing Hurst can do to turn it round.

You have NEVER heard me compare Hurst with other managers. Yes, it is now when it counts. In financial terms we need at least a Wembley appearance. In footballing terms we need to go up. Otherwise the winning run etc count for nothing. Because next season we are in the same league as the teams that finished 20/30 points below us.  Hurst has had time now to do things his way with his squad.  HE is the one that put together what I think is the best squad since we dropped out the league. Credit due for that. But that is only one part of the job. If he can't then take us up with that squad then it isn't job done. You sound like you are happy to stay in this tinpot league as long as we get most club points etc etc. well not for me, I want GTFC back in the league. Where they belong.

Quoted from RichMariner

I get why fans are frustrated with Hurst - even in a season where we've surpassed our previous record points tally in this division, and even in a season where we've had our best away record in living memory (for me, anyway).


He might not be inspirational, but I think he's intelligent enough to know where it went wrong last season, and we should believe he'll know what to do differently this time around.

The pro Hurst brigade are desperate for him to do well, while the anti-Hurst brigade are more desperate to be proved wrong than right.

So that means we're together on this one. Back the lads, back the manager for the next three games at least - hopefully four - and see where we are in just over three weeks' time.

What gives me hope Rich is the Barnet game at our ground.Chances are if we play like that we can probably beat anyone Bristol included

What cost us promotion and p1ss1ing this leagues was away draws against sh1t like Telford, Dartford and Altringham, throwing away a 2 -0  lead at Chester as well as home draws after being ahead versus Dover. Eight lost points.

And............ Losing at home to average sides like Southport, Gateshead and  Kiddy. This is the best squad we have had in ages if we fail we only have ourselves to blame! However........ ..IT STILL COULD BE ON IF WE PULL TOGETHER AND EVERYONE GETS BEHIND THE LADS.        

Sorry I meant Wrexham not Gateshead at home, and stupid draws cost is 10 points (at least) not 8..........5th pint!

Quoted from Civvy at last

You sound like you are happy to stay in this tinpot league as long as we get most club points etc etc. well not for me, I want GTFC back in the league. Where they belong.

Ridiculous comment. We all want to get out of this league but there's only 2 promotion places so the odds are against us. There's no way of guaranteeing promotion through the play offs just like there's no way of guaranteeing that a different manager could do any better over the course of a season.