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jock dock tower
December 29, 2014, 9:49am Report to Moderator
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Have watched with amazement at the calls for Hurst's head on this forum over the last couple of days. Earlier in the season I put up a posting about percentages of Town games won etc, and doubted whether they had the ability on either this season's form - or any other season in the Conference - to reach the requisite number of points in order to get into the play offs. I'm so glad that I have been proved wrong with those statistics and Town are in a decent position.

We've played 27 games so far, and we had our notorious slow start to the season and after a third of the games had been played we'd won 3, drawn 3, and lost 3. Barnet on the other hand had won 7, drawn 1, and lost 1. In the remaining games since then we have won 10, drawn 5 and lost 3. If we take off Barnet's extra game played they have won 10, drawn 4 and lost 4. Is anybody calling for their manager's head because of such a shocking run, securing one less point than we have?

The internet, and fans forums in particular make it easy for people to vent their wrath on players and managers in the heat of the moment. Perhaps taking a deep breath and looking at things realistically instead might be a good idea?


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Had a night to think things over and,well,, anyone know of any one way trains out of town for him. . clueless  boring  and just wasting  fenty`s money  
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Had to put up with my son in law at tea last night who attends nearly every Lincoln match. He emphasised the difference their change in Manager has made in the style and approach of their play with the key part being a " Keegan" type approach of we will outscore you. They certainly got men forward in numbers yesterday and whilst leaving themselves vulnerable at the back were pretty good to watch.

As a number stated yesterday we need a more mobile and quick thinking central midfield and a proper quality wideman. Play Neilson behind the front two, as Power played yesterday, and we may see an upturn. Moyes at the minute seems to dispel the need for a full pro A lcoaching licence but accept its early days. A win over Barnet at the weekend though could really put them in the mix. God life will be unbearable in the local if that happens!!
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Had a night to think things over and,well,, anyone know of any one way trains out of town for him. . clueless  boring  and just wasting  fenty`s money  


Any club that sacks a manager after the record we currently have, and the league position we hold, deserves everything they get IMO.
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Any club that sacks a manager after the record we currently have, and the league position we hold, deserves everything they get IMO.


So we deserved Mike Neweel, is that what you are saying because AB never got us relegated.


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Any club that sacks a manager after the record we currently have, and the league position we hold, deserves everything they get IMO.


On the other hand there is the argument that says if the club maintain the current status quo they'll also deserve everything they get - the thing is nobody knows for sure what will happen in 2015

I'm not minded to get rid of Hurst based on a poor result yesterday but to my mind when we got the opener yesterday we didn't go hard enough for the second killer goal and as much as you can't legislate for the worldy they equalised with, I think we could have and should have had them on the rack well before half time

I think that is because he's fostered a mentality such that everyone believes that at '1-0 to the Mariners' it's more or less job done when the evidence yesterday disproves this
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Any club that sacks a manager after the record we currently have, and the league position we hold, deserves everything they get IMO.


And keeping hold of a manager that takes us nowhere  gets you what you deserve ,,,
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Disley said on RH that we should have been 3-0 up at half time - felt we should have closed down their wonder goal..but that is the view of a team that has conceded; you can't close down everything and the opposition are entitled to a shot now and then!
Know what he means though - when we go 1-0 up never at any time this season (other than Dartford/Alfreton) do we look like we will rip a team apart (people will say Gateshead but truth is that could have been 12-12!)
Perhaps Hurst is not the man to take us out of this league...I don't know, no-one knows... time will tell; if Fenty and board feel the 'realistic' ambition is play offs then he's doing a decent job and must stay IMO.

Goals, goals, and more goals are what we need and I'm afraid we just don't score enough when we are on top - Lincoln are one of the highest scorers in league and have conceded about as many...but are only 8pts behind us with game in hand. I know what I'd rather watch.

We are perfect for winning a dour, drab game 1-0 away from home.. as we have proved several times

And don't hold your breath - there will not be ANY goal machines in the transfer window... so we go with what we have which will not mean a title challenge but might get us over the line into play offs

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Good points by Jock,

Regarding the sacking of Hurst,

I do not think posters are calling for his head just because we lost to Lincoln,

Most of the moaners and I am sad to say I have become one of them,

Want a change because of the boring football played under Hurst,

Plus every time we get a decent gate at home the team let the fans down every time,

The gate on News Years Day will be half of the Lincoln one and most of the ones that stay away will not come back for a long time,

Hurst is happy with boring 1-0 wins but the fans want a bit more than that.

We are stuck with him until the end of the season imo,

So we just have to live in hope he can get a couple of players in that can change things for the better.


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I don't think anyone will hold their breath over the transfer window with Paul Hurst, particularly this year. A NYD game against a team who will be out to avenge the defeat from last week and another dismal dabble, at best, in the loan market followed by a blank Saturday due to a Town cup 'run' that if you blinked you'd have missed.
Still. the John Lewis ad will keep us all chuckling.


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