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barralad
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How did these teams do against the lesser teams of that division in their respective promotional years?

slightly better than town I'm sure


Although Town lost the odd game (mainly at home) to "strugglers" Town had pretty good records against the lower teams-particularly in Hearns full season. It was the better teams that we couldn't beat....


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really...........i thought the anger directed towards hurst on here was because most of us on here can see we will be playing the gimps next xmas time


Hardly justifies the abuse he's received for yesterday's performance. Forced to play without the quickest defender we have. (I didn't read too many comments pre-match suggesting playing Doig in there instead of Parslow) Question marks over the fitness of a central midfielder who would've enjoyed that sort of match and then losing two players to injury thus significantly reducing his options for tactical substitutions.
Given the players we have you couldn't have asked for a much more attacking line up than one which includes Pitman, Arnold LJL and Neilson (with Mackreth a reasonably attacking deputiser). Some of the forward play was a joy to watch-particularly in the first half and particularly from Pitman. Yet we've had criticism that we played hopeful hoofs to a lone striker! I believe the terms are WTF and FFS
One of their goals was a "worldie" the other two were defensive errors and were contributed to significantly by the enforced changing of personnel. As I said elsewhere the Lincoln lad knew exactly what he was doing on Magnay....
Sometimes you just have to accept that it ain't your day but, as always on here, the blame culture is a thriving entity and what better scapegoat than the manager...


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Although Town lost the odd game (mainly at home) to "strugglers" Town had pretty good records against the lower teams-particularly in Hearns full season. It was the better teams that we couldn't beat....


Doesn't this prove my point about the total inconsistency over the seasons of Hurst management?


Are we any closer to getting promoted since Hurst has been here? No

Has he been given time to achieve promotion by the chairman and fans? Yes

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Doesn't this prove my point about the total inconsistency over the seasons of Hurst management?


My reply was to your longish post which didn't appear to mention inconsistency. It mentioned several "attributes" Hurst doesn't have without elaborating much. It's my view that every one of the points you made is at least moot.

Incidentally it is only fair to look at Hurst for the time he has been in sole charge. There is no way of knowing whether he'd have done the same as the pair of them did when they were in charge


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Hardly justifies the abuse he's received for yesterday's performance. Forced to play without the quickest defender we have. (I didn't read too many comments pre-match suggesting playing Doig in there instead of Parslow) Question marks over the fitness of a central midfielder who would've enjoyed that sort of match and then losing two players to injury thus significantly reducing his options for tactical substitutions.
Given the players we have you couldn't have asked for a much more attacking line up than one which includes Pitman, Arnold LJL and Neilson (with Mackreth a reasonably attacking deputiser). Some of the forward play was a joy to watch-particularly in the first half and particularly from Pitman. Yet we've had criticism that we played hopeful hoofs to a lone striker! I believe the terms are WTF and FFS
One of their goals was a "worldie" the other two were defensive errors and were contributed to significantly by the enforced changing of personnel. As I said elsewhere the Lincoln lad knew exactly what he was doing on Magnay....
Sometimes you just have to accept that it ain't your day but, as always on here, the blame culture is a thriving entity and what better scapegoat than the manager...


Can't disagree with this.nobody has mentioned how many excellent saves Farman made.one of those games where nothing really broke for us .didnt help having 2 of our main players hobbling and unable to contribute after the first fifteen minutes
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My reply was to your longish post which didn't appear to mention inconsistency. It mentioned several "attributes" Hurst doesn't have without elaborating much. It's my view that every one of the points you made is at least moot.

Incidentally it is only fair to look at Hurst for the time he has been in sole charge. There is no way of knowing whether he'd have done the same as the pair of them did when they were in charge


I'm tired of people defending Hurst after all the time he's had to build a team to take our football club out of this league. See you all in the play-offs and in the conference next season


Are we any closer to getting promoted since Hurst has been here? No

Has he been given time to achieve promotion by the chairman and fans? Yes

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I'm tired of people defending Hurst after all the time he's had to build a team to take our football club out of this league. See you all in the play-offs and in the conference next season


And I'm tired of the same unsubstantiated criticism of a manager who currently has a team in the top four of the league with nearly half the season to play so I guess that makes us quits  


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A thread which was opened in a sane manner so I'll post my reaction here.

Firstly, obviously majorly disappointed to lose v Lincoln in the derby.

Secondly, we weren't as bad as many have portrayed. Their keeper and two centre halves had a blinder and a fair bit of luck. The ball just seemed to stick them. When we scored, we were comfortable then we had 5 minutes of madness. The third goal came on the break when we were very much on top.

The bloke behind me was criticising McKreath all game and I though he was our best player for the second home game running. He's improved a lot and was a constant threat to Lincoln. I thought the ref bottled 3 big decisions - two free kicks around their box where there should have been a free kick and wasn't and a booking that never came. And the third was for a second yellow for the lad they subbed immediately afterwards but we can't blame him.

We were second to most of the second balls which was particularly evident in first 20 as Lincoln settled much better.

If you were a neutral at that game you'd have come away feeling like you'd been to a cracking local derby. Fair play to Lincoln.

People do need a reality check though. We've been in the top 5 for for most of the season and Barnett are well within reach considering we're yet to play them.

I do agree Parslow needs to go back. He's not good enough.

My main two criticisms of Hurst are this: we are terribly uninventive at set plays and his substitutions aren't quick or positive enough. When we went 3-1 down he should have changed it straight away. Attacker on, go for it. This is a regular occurrence.

Sacking him is no good, I think that is 2 in 13/14 we've lost in the league. That's not a sackable offence.

I heard someone on the way out saying Nielsen is off in January. This would be extremely disappointing. In the FA Trophy I'd like to see him play in the hole behind the front two again as against Gateshead and Alfreton earlier in the season as it seemed to work well and is a good opportunity to get him fitter and experiment. If he's able to play.

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And I'm tired of the same unsubstantiated criticism of a manager who currently has a team in the top four of the league with nearly half the season to play so I guess that makes us quits  


His job is to get us promoted FFS not finish in the the top four, unlike Arsene Wenger Hurst hasn't got the Champions league to look forward to.

And as a matter of interest how many seasons of failure (can we agree his sole job is to get us out of this league) do you say enough is enough?


Are we any closer to getting promoted since Hurst has been here? No

Has he been given time to achieve promotion by the chairman and fans? Yes

Hurst out
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His job is to get us promoted FFS not finish in the the top four, unlike Arsene Wenger Hurst hasn't got the Champions league to look forward to.

And as a matter of interest how many seasons of failure (can we agree his sole job is to get us out of this league) do you say enough is enough?


This one.


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