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MeanwoodMariner
September 29, 2014, 4:25pm

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I agree with the OP. There's also the myth of him having "favourites" who are undroppable. I think Disley has played fewer games than any of the other centre mids but every time he does get a game someone says he's picking his favourites again.
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September 29, 2014, 4:34pm
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What a great point !  
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Nothing wrong with changing personnel and players, as well as formations. I just don't think he is very astute at it.  I also think that he is very slow to make changes and never to my knowledge has made a change at half time. Think ljl  should have been on sooner on Saturday for instance. Get the feeling he is 're-active rather than active.

Then again, I'm a joiner, so what the hell do I know?
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September 29, 2014, 5:28pm
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If a manager isn't "tinkering" with his team he isn't doing his job, surely?
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September 29, 2014, 5:33pm
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I also think he's a little slow to make some changes too.
But in his defence, if you react too quickly and it goes wrong, you look like completely clueless.

One that I vaguely remember is the Kiddy one where he admitted post match he was thinking about changing things sooner but said sometimes you've got to allow the game to settle down. (or words to that effect)

What's been more a concern for me over past seasons is the slow starts.
I hope we can continue to get on the front foot from the off more often than not.

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If a manager isn't "tinkering" with his team he isn't doing his job, surely?

Exactly - team picks itself after a win ? I think not...
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A lot of really good points in this thread.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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September 29, 2014, 7:02pm

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I bet Paul has a really good laugh when he reads this thread,

AND

We know he does.


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Nothing wrong with changing personnel and players, as well as formations. I just don't think he is very astute at it.  I also think that he is very slow to make changes and never to my knowledge has made a change at half time. Think ljl  should have been on sooner on Saturday for instance. Get the feeling he is 're-active rather than active.

Then again, I'm a joiner, so what the hell do I know?


You may be able to advise him on draws
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Interesting points.

'The playing of certain players out of position over others'.....  Does this actually happen that often?

In terms of playing different systems to only nullify the opposition, I would be interested to know where did this originally come from? A direct quote from hurst? 'We are changing tactics completely because we are worried about Dover?' Or is it just assumed that if we change tactics against a team it's only to nullify them and not to focus on their weak points?

I would also say that trust in the youth team players is another subject completely.





Excellent point IMO


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I just don't think he is very astute at it.  



If that's your opinion then fair enough- no arguing with that.  I just find it very hard to come to that conclusion on something that isn't measurable in anyway.

If you make changes and you win. It doesn't mean those changes were the right ones.

If you make changes and lose. It doesn't mean those changes were the wrong ones.

There is no real way of telling for sure one way or another. We may have won or lost by more without any changes?!

Interesting how you think he is re active- when many people believe he is a 'tinkerer' which would suggest he is over 'pro active' in their eyes! All about opinions!
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