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costa del cleethorpes
October 20, 2012, 8:36pm
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Wake up u little sharp object re tweeting people slagging scott off, i for one think the managers made the right choice bringing u off and changing things, flipping grow up you little doughnut
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Dayle has said fkall about it. It was other people tweeting him.


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October 20, 2012, 8:43pm
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Quoted from STB
Dayle has said fkall about it. It was other people tweeting him.


He re tweeted what was said cleary agreeing, dont spin it if hes not happy he can fuk off
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He re tweeted what was said cleary agreeing, dont spin it if hes not happy he can fuk off


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i haven't read twitter, but unfortunately Dayle made himself look a nob by storming down the tunnel like some Balloteli stroke Tevez moron. the decision was clearly correct. If i was Scott i'd drop him to reserves to give him time to mature.
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There's a discipline in football, i wouldn't dream of gobbing off at my sunday league manager for bringing me off early, even if i felt hard done by, nevermind proffessional football, it's not on and i honestly think he's copulated his chances of a starting place for a while now, Scott takes no prisoners.
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He retweeted it , therefore he endorsed it
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give the kid a break, lets let him become a regular starter before we ruin him.
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Quoted from pizzzza
He retweeted it , therefore he endorsed it


Is exactly what i thought it meant thanks for clearing that up pizza
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October 20, 2012, 9:40pm
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He was the victim of a bad tactics by the manager's who unfortunately took till 0-3 to change it, we then became a better attacking threat, having played the game to a decent standard both views can be understood, he was hurt and disappointed they felt  correctly that it had to be done, hopefully he will apologise they will be happy that he care's and we can got on with trying to win this fu**ing league  
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I don't think there's much wrong with a player being pissed off with being subbed; you don't expect a player to be happy, especially if it's happened so early. Obviously what's happened since I've no idea.


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He prob retweeted it for the 'get wasted' bit.

After all it is his Birthday
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i would've been annoyed as well. getting taken off while the likes of elding get to stay on and do sod all. good on the lad for showing some passion.
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I think he has deleted it now....
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October 20, 2012, 10:35pm

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I have not read anything on Twitter,

BUT

If the lad was drunk off with being taken off after 20mins , I can understand his frustration,

He will mature and realise it was not about him but changing the formation,

On top of every thing else it was his bithday, which made it even more disapointing for him,

He will put this behind him and become a very important player for us,


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Someone said this:
think rob scotts man management skills are urine poor ,easily could ruin a young prospect @daylesouthwell chin up son and get wasted !!!!!!!!

and Southwell retweeted it, but then later said this:

@paulbiffwalker can you delete that tweet please as it won't let me delete my retweet and I didn't meant to do it.


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Anyone would be frustrated, but he's got to grow up and realise how lucky he is, just keep quiet and carry on working hard. Gobbing off could put him in the bad books, if he stops getting games, especially at a club like this where we can't afford to give many second chances to players, that'll be it, playing for grimsby borough next season. First storming off like a mardy teenager and then retweeting a load of tweets that criticized the managers decision (even though the tactical change was working fantastically until disley took a knock) is just so disrespectful to the managers, to the club, to the fans and even just anyone who likes football. Because playing for grimsby cmon THATS THE DREAM, I just can't empathise with his mindset. And if you defend it you'll probably just make him worse.
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Anyone would be frustrated, but he's got to grow up and realise how lucky he is, just keep quiet and carry on working hard. Gobbing off could put him in the bad books, if he stops getting games, especially at a club like this where we can't afford to give many second chances to players, that'll be it, playing for grimsby borough next season. First storming off like a mardy teenager and then retweeting a load of tweets that criticized the managers decision (even though the tactical change was working fantastically until disley took a knock) is just so disrespectful to the managers, to the club, to the fans and even just anyone who likes football. Because playing for grimsby cmon THATS THE DREAM, I just can't empathise with his mindset. And if you defend it you'll probably just make him worse.


He's a teenager on approx minimum wage playing for a non-league club.

If that is his dream, then he's not very ambitious.


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October 20, 2012, 11:14pm

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You can't really blame Southwell for being frustrated  he payed the price for team selection  of the two clueless clowns that are our team managers  that were well out thought by the kiddie manager
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Quoted from springstomind
i haven't read twitter, but unfortunately Dayle made himself look a nob by storming down the tunnel like some Balloteli stroke Tevez moron. the decision was clearly correct. If i was Scott i'd drop him to reserves to give him time to mature.


He didn't storm off down the tunnel tho did he   He sat on the bench till the end of the game   If your going to slag players off get the facts right
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If he had stuck away the glorious opportunity he had in the first minute none of this would have happened.
He is a professional footballer, getting paid to play and is a striker.

Take your chances and you wont get taken off, as simple as that.



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He didn't storm off down the tunnel tho did he   He sat on the bench till the end of the game   If your going to slag players off get the facts right


buckley and jt said he stormed off down the tunnel but was stopped by rob scott, who had words. both buckley and jt though rob scott was right to do so.


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He did get pulled up by Rob Scott for trying to storm down the tunnel. Well done Rob teach him a lesson early, he has been watching to much Balloteli on the tv.
Has a good chance as long a he is prepared to learn, and realise getting in the first team does not mean you are the finished article.
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Quoted from moosey_club
If he had stuck away the glorious opportunity he had in the first minute none of this would have happened.
He is a professional footballer, getting paid to play and is a striker.

Take your chances and you wont get taken off, as simple as that.



If that was the case would Elding ever play another game?u
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if nuzzle and scratch had got there job right in the first place this would never had happened
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Cant believe people are blaming it on the managers. That formation has worked all season, yet we go 3-0 down early on and all of a sudden they are clueless.
Embarrassing comments.

As for Southwell. Dont blame him for being drunk off, but stupid reaction to walk down the tunnel, well try.
I hope he realises now it was tactical and not personal, and if he doesn't well he's a bit dim.
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Not the first time for Scott though is it? Did the same to I'Anson against Braintree (?) last year. Think the bloke likes his power a bit too much.
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Not the first time for Scott though is it? Did the same to I'Anson against Braintree (?) last year. Think the bloke likes his power a bit too much.


If he gets us out of this league I couldn't give a toss how much he likes his power and how many players he upsets to do it.



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it was my tweet and he did tweet me back but didnt see it till this morning ,felt for the lad but was the right decision on reflection ,glad he wasnt happy ,who likes coming off cos i facking dont !!!! just wanted him 2 know the fans wasnt happy about it and enjoy his bday!!
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I hope Scott gives the little excrement a good kicking what a stroppy spoilt little excrement, It doesn't matter if Scott/Hurst got there tactics wrong they had to make a decision he should respect that he wants to be grateful he's even in the team. I want to see a public apology from him now to the management or he gets a club fine and taken out the squad.

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Quoted from MuddyWaters
Not the first time for Scott though is it? Did the same to I'Anson against Braintree (?) last year. Think the bloke likes his power a bit too much.


Oh dear, the world is going soft.

They made a change, which nearly paid off ffs, we almost equalised but was cleared off the line and they broke and scored, did they not?


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Quoted from merge shottx
it was my tweet and he did tweet me back but didnt see it till this morning ,felt for the lad but was the right decision on reflection ,glad he wasnt happy ,who likes coming off cos i facking dont !!!! just wanted him 2 know the fans wasnt happy about it and enjoy his bday!!


What? So you said "think rob scotts man management skills are urine poor ,easily could ruin a young prospect" ? You try to tell him 'the fans' weren't happy, though this was obviously just your view and with hindsight you agree with the sub, but the tweet just sounds like an attack on his management skills.
I don't know who's worse, fans for pretending to be chummy with players or the actual players for responding.


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Quoted from jungleland
You can't really blame Southwell for being frustrated  he payed the price for team selection  of the two clueless clowns that are our team managers  that were well out thought by the kiddie manager


Really? Before game fans were calling for Southwell to play and have been crying out for Andi Thanoj to be given a chance. The change at fullback were enforced. I am sure tha managers did not expect the defence to start the game with some sort of hangover. The change they made got us back into the game but unfortunately things did not go our way.
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Quoted from merge shottx
it was my tweet and he did tweet me back but didnt see it till this morning ,felt for the lad but was the right decision on reflection ,glad he wasnt happy ,who likes coming off cos i facking dont !!!! just wanted him 2 know the fans wasnt happy about it and enjoy his bday!!


Did you carry out a survey?

Most of the fans near me could see we were desperate for change especially after being critical in the last home game for subs being like for like, and totally agreed with the decision!

The switch made sense, and worked.

Can't understand anyone being critical of the managers being power mad?? Of course they have power, they are in charge of the team!! It is their heads on the block and they have to make the decisions.
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I do not know why we employ a manager or two as it is at the moment,

Some posters on here know far more then S + H,

Well they think they do.



Managers should manage and supporters should support.

No manager gets it right everytime.


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Quoted from merge shottx
it was my tweet and he did tweet me back but didnt see it till this morning ,felt for the lad but was the right decision on reflection ,glad he wasnt happy ,who likes coming off cos i facking dont !!!! just wanted him 2 know the fans wasnt happy about it and enjoy his bday!!


The fans wasnt happy cos we where 3 down , they changed things we looked better southwell came off and threw a strop, most fans around me said he should grow up.  
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Not the first time for Scott though is it? Did the same to I'Anson against Braintree (?) last year. Think the bloke likes his power a bit too much.


It was Newport, it was Thanoj as well and we were 2-0 down at the time.

It finished 2-2.


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It was Newport, it was Thanoj as well and we were 2-0 down at the time.

It finished 2-2.


Thought they took I'anson off too??? You're right though, it was Newport, it did finish 2-2...


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Quoted from merge shottx
it was my tweet and he did tweet me back but didnt see it till this morning ,felt for the lad but was the right decision on reflection ,glad he wasnt happy ,who likes coming off cos i facking dont !!!! just wanted him 2 know the fans wasnt happy about it and enjoy his bday!!


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Thought they took I'anson off too??? You're right though, it was Newport, it did finish 2-2...


Yeah you're right, I meant it was Thanoj as well as I'Anson.


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So were all in agreement.
Southwell needs to grow up.
The change worked.
The managers arent really to blame for being 3-0 down after 17 minutes and the team selection at the start was what most/everyone would've gone with before the game.

I hope so.
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Quoted from brad_gtfc
So were all in agreement.
Southwell needs to grow up.
The change worked.
The managers arent really to blame for being 3-0 down after 17 minutes and the team selection at the start was what most/everyone would've gone with before the game.

I hope so.


It took a lot of getting there, but yes, this is spot on.

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Quoted from brad_gtfc
Cant believe people are blaming it on the managers. That formation has worked all season, yet we go 3-0 down early on and all of a sudden they are clueless.
Embarrassing comments.


As for Southwell. Dont blame him for being drunk off, but stupid reaction to walk down the tunnel, well try.
I hope he realises now it was tactical and not personal, and if he doesn't well he's a bit dim.


Absolutely spot on. Until people in general and players in particular stop seeing substitution as a form of punishment these issues are going to keep reappearing...


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Quoted from BIGChris


Did you carry out a survey?

Most of the fans near me could see we were desperate for change especially after being critical in the last home game for subs being like for like, and totally agreed with the decision!

The switch made sense, and worked.

Can't understand anyone being critical of the managers being power mad?? Of course they have power, they are in charge of the team!! It is their heads on the block and they have to make the decisions.


Good to see old age hasn't addled your brain yet....


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Absolutely spot on. Until people in general and players in particular stop seeing substitution as a form of punishment these issues are going to keep reappearing...


What's abundantly clear is that Shorty and Shouty don't seem to account for how the opposition might line up. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I don't see us getting promotion under their watch.
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It shouldn't matter how the opposition lines up too much IMO, they shud be worrying how we line up, especially at home!
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We were 3-0 down in the opening quarter of hour. Clearly whatever our game plan was it wasn't working and the game was getting away from us. Had they left it the game cold have been well and truly gone. The managers decided to act swiftly.

Some fans will moan about the decision- had they left it as it was some fans would have whinged at the indecisiveness of the management. FACT -fans will usually fine something to moan about especially if the team is losing.

The bosses clearly felt the game was being lost in the middle of the park so put Dis on to combat that resuting in a change of tactics. Someone was going to sacrificed, it was probably going to be a striker ( should we have gone 3 at the back instead with 75 minutes or so left?? really ?). In this scenario do you take off your young inexperienced striker or your old head. ? They chose to keep Elds on , presumably 'cos they felt he would hold the ball up better on his own.

Now Dayle was disappointed to be taken off. He has every right to feel that way but this is a TEAM game and decisions are made for the benefit of the TEAM. The decision was vindicated as we changed the flow of the game and indeed went on to dominant proceedings- At 3-2 i thought we would go on to at least get a draw and were possibly unlucky not to- for 70 minutes we were the far better team.

Dayle was not happy and was going to storm off down the tunnel- Scott has grabbed and made him sit on the bench. Rigthtly so - again its a TEAM game and he needed to show suport for the lads whatever his disappointed of being taken off. Ok he's a young lad but sitting solemn face for the rest of the game , arms crossed, bottom lip on the floor he just came across a teenager in a teenage sulk (which actually is probably what it was) but he needs to look at it as taking one for the team and get over it. Maybe one of the bosses (maybe Hurst the nice one) should have put an arm round him and have a little word to explain it to him and say it was a tactical substitution and in no way reflected the lads own performance (hell he hasn't time to have a bad game had he ?).

The game was lost early but we still almost managed to pull out a result. Just one of those days - put a line under it and move on. last week Scott & Hurst were the bees knees and there was no stopping us-1 week later, a  bad result and they're excrement again.

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Some people are so nasty on here, don't you lot think all the abuse will affect him?
FFS people leave the kid alone you nasty sh1ts. Go and find a puppy to kick or whatever it is you do for entertainment.


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What's abundantly clear is that Shorty and Shouty don't seem to account for how the opposition might line up. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I don't see us getting promotion under their watch.


They did not expect our team to commit crimes against defending either, to be fair them both.

If we bounce back with a win in the next game, all will be forgiven.


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Some people are so nasty on here, don't you lot think all the abuse will affect him?
FFS people leave the kid alone you nasty sh1ts. Go and find a puppy to kick or whatever it is you do for entertainment.


I dont think i was being nasty to him fella. I just feel whilst he was justified to be upset at being taken off his continued 'sulk' showed a little immaturity. I dont read twitter so have made no comment on what is on there. At the end of the day he is a professional footballer- fan praise and criticism it part and parcell of his job. He'll need to get used to that and develop thick skin or he'll get nowhere.
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I dont think i was being nasty to him fella. I just feel whilst he was justified to be upset at being taken off his continued 'sulk' showed a little immaturity. I dont read twitter so have made no comment on what is on there. At the end of the day he is a professional footballer- fan praise and criticism it part and parcell of his job. He'll need to get used to that and develop thick skin or he'll get nowhere.


Stuff like little sharp object is not going to help the lad.
I agreed that we needed a change at the time and unfortunately Southwell was sacrificed for the good of the team, ye he blew his top but rather that than accepting it and not giving a toss.
He's a young lad and was disappointed that's all it boils down to.
Is it the same sad people who abused Wood for giving away a free kick I wonder?


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should we have gone 3 at the back instead with 75 minutes or so left?? really ?).

What's your concern we'll concede more with 3 centre backs instead of 2 ?
If so it's debatable...

Admittedly we haven't played this formation (with additional wingbacks) but some thought the full backs hardly looked that great in a 442 anyway. Hatton looks a lot more useful further up the pitch IMO.

Not saying it wouldn't have been a brave decision or jaws wouldn't have dropped but it's very easy to panic or assume it would have meant disaster.
Even if it went wrong things are quickly forgotten in time once the manager gets things right.

Credit to them anyway - changing the midfield shows they acted quickly to improve the situation.
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Credit to S & h. I don't see what they did wrong in the first place and reacted quickly to try and turn things round. How often have people on here criticised mangers for not making changes soon enough. These 2 have shown they will do what it takes to try and win a game and that has to be right. We may not agree with everything they do but on Sat changing was better than not changing. Just a pitty young Dale should lose out, but his time will come again. He needs to keep working hard and pushing his case. Clearly he had impressed the managers prior to the game to get a starting spot.
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What's abundantly clear is that Shorty and Shouty don't seem to account for how the opposition might line up. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I don't see us getting promotion under their watch.


Why should we change our line up to suit the opposition ?

They should fear us and change their formation to try and contain us,

Being 3-0 down after 17mins is a one off, we have not let many  goals in this season  

So we do not have a problem when all our players are fit,

Don't forget we had only one player playing out of this seasons normal  back 4 playing in their normal position on Saturday


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southwell had a hissy fit plain and simple but not the end of the world and at least hes showing some desire the bit wat worries me is 4 hours later on twitter hes agreeing the managers are sh1te by retweeting the slagging off of the managers hes either daft or very immature,i can see his career over before its started
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Why should we change our line up to suit the opposition ?

They should fear us and change their formation to try and contain us,

Being 3-0 down after 17mins is a one off, we have not let many  goals in this season  

So we do not have a problem when all our players are fit,

Don't forget we had only one player playing out of this seasons normal  back 4 playing in their normal position on Saturday


Shows that we aren't a strong enough squad then. Miller for Pearson is a perfectly adequate replacement but Hatton for Wood and Wood for Thomas aren't. Similarly Southwell isn't Hannah and Elding is a waste of space but good enough to keep Cook out. Bearing in mind how long the managers have had, we're in a bit of a sorry state when three of our best players are players who don't belong to us.
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Shows that we aren't a strong enough squad then. Miller for Pearson is a perfectly adequate replacement but Hatton for Wood and Wood for Thomas aren't. Similarly Southwell isn't Hannah and Elding is a waste of space but good enough to keep Cook out. Bearing in mind how long the managers have had, we're in a bit of a sorry state when three of our best players are players who don't belong to us.



I can not argue with your comments,


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Shows that we aren't a strong enough squad then. Miller for Pearson is a perfectly adequate replacement but Hatton for Wood and Wood for Thomas aren't. Similarly Southwell isn't Hannah and Elding is a waste of space but good enough to keep Cook out. Bearing in mind how long the managers have had, we're in a bit of a sorry state when three of our best players are players who don't belong to us.


I think you are being a bit unfair really, Hearn is a massive loss and Pearson has struggled with fitness so it is fair enough that we have loans, the fact that they have added quality is a plus for me.
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I think you are being a bit unfair really, Hearn is a massive loss and Pearson has struggled with fitness so it is fair enough that we have loans, the fact that they have added quality is a plus for me.
Well said

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I think you are being a bit unfair really, Hearn is a massive loss and Pearson has struggled with fitness so it is fair enough that we have loans, the fact that they have added quality is a plus for me.


Agree with this. You can't say they haven't signed some quality players permanently. You also can't underestimate how much of a loss Hearn is, he is arguably the best player in this league.
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Agree with this. You can't say they haven't signed some quality players permanently. You also can't underestimate how much of a loss Hearn is, he is arguably the best player in this league.


Spot on.
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I think you are being a bit unfair really, Hearn is a massive loss and Pearson has struggled with fitness so it is fair enough that we have loans, the fact that they have added quality is a plus for me.


Can't argue with the Hearn point but we added Pearson & Cook to replace Duffy. Hannah is effectively cover for Hearn. Whilst Pond is undoubtedly an asset, you could argue that he has merely been keeping Miller's shirt warm until Shaun Pearson got injured. The most impressive loanee is Nielsen without doubt but all that goes to show is how poor Soares & Artus are, also S & H signings.
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Can't argue with the Hearn point but we added Pearson & Cook to replace Duffy. Hannah is effectively cover for Hearn. Whilst Pond is undoubtedly an asset, you could argue that he has merely been keeping Miller's shirt warm until Shaun Pearson got injured. The most impressive loanee is Nielsen without doubt but all that goes to show is how poor Soares & Artus are, also S & H signings.


Pearson has been injured but has looked like he might be a good signing. He doesnt' have a track record of injuries so I think its unfair that some fans are writing him off as a sick note. Cook has been disappointing but could come good, he scored a lot of goals for Barrow. Soares and Artus are poor, thats true. But then the likes of McKeown, Niven, Pearson, Miller, Thomas, Hearn, Colbeck and Disley are all good permanent signings by SandH.
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We keep hearing this complaint that players "aren't showing it".

Well have to say, it's the ones rarely seen on the pitch recently that I blame !
Can't Greg Pearson, Cook, Ford, Artus, Fleming, Morrell and Soares pull their finger out when they're mainly sat on the bench or playing for another club ?  
Obviously the likes of Hatton, Thanoj, Miller and Southwell are gonna be 110% too having had so much game time.

Not just asking you this aaron but shouldn't we make some allowances ?
Think some of the criticism has been a bit harsh (not you aaron least you're supportive and can see some potential).
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We keep hearing this complaint that players "aren't showing it".

Well have to say, it's the ones rarely seen on the pitch recently that I blame !
Can't Greg Pearson, Cook, Ford, Artus, Fleming, Morrell and Soares pull their finger out when they're mainly sat on the bench or playing for another club ?  
Obviously the likes of Hatton, Thanoj, Miller and Southwell are gonna be 110% too having had so much game time.

Not just asking you this aaron but shouldn't we make some allowances ?
Think some of the criticism has been a bit harsh (not you aaron least you're supportive and can see some potential).


To be honest this was the one thing that tempered my "anger" about Saturday. It isn't reasonable to expect in the fifth tier of English football that fringe players are going to be able to perform to their best the first time they are called upon. It IS a real problem for managers. The only thing that gives me real hope is that most of the successful Town teams I've seen have been built on pretty small squads.


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It isn't reasonable to expect in the fifth tier of English football that fringe players are going to be able to perform to their best the first time they are called upon.

Not generally IMO although I do see your point.
One thing I'll say is some players (like Duffy) have been known to perform for one or two games purely on adrennalin when they weren't fully fit.

Whether fringe players have performed to the required standard or are ultimately "up to it" is another question.
But generally think match practice (especially 1st team experience) can sometimes be important for players to improve on their previous efforts.
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Not sure what we can read into this but it seems to be generally agreed on this Forum that Soares is not up to the standard we expect but when we signed him from H&Y he had 17 goals under his belt for the season and now we have loaned him out to Ebbsfleet, they were keen to have him back for a further loan spell.

If he was / is good enough for those other clubs, why not for us?
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Don't personally accept he's not good enough (think he looked very good in parts pre-season) but it's a fair enough question.

Perhaps he's better "in the hole" behind the front 2 ?
Know someone said he was playing right wing but in that case he's not on the left either and wonder where he was playing when he scored all those goals.
If playing in the hole IS his best position then it's often a luxury for managers to be able to choose and risk in any e.g. 4-3-1-2 formation.
Perhaps it might be part fitness related too ?

I guess only the managers know the full reasons for the loan.
But maybe just maybe it's more a case of seizing a great opportunity to strengthen than anyone "not being up to it".
If Soares is really "not up to the standard we expect" then it could be a sign our expectations and standards (or the managers) are rising.

ATEOTD who would you rather have playing on the left wing right now, Soares or Neilson ?  
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See Southwell is now moaning about having to travel to Wrexham for a reserve game in a mini bus!
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See Southwell is now moaning about having to travel to Wrexham for a reserve game in a mini bus!


Good for him.
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See Southwell is now moaning about having to travel to Wrexham for a reserve game in a mini bus!


At least he doesn't have to share a ride with Furneaux  
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See Southwell is now moaning about having to travel to Wrexham for a reserve game in a mini bus!


If he continues like this i can't see him being here for long i seem to remember him moaning on twitter about something last season


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Why dont u all just stop stalking him and then u wont read things that u dont like!
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When does the game start (reserves game)
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When does the game start (reserves game)

Lost 2-1. Greg Pearson scored early for us but Wrexham scored twice in the last 10 minutes.


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Ohh, I wonder what he will tweet next?!?


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Didn't realise Pearson was fit. If he's up to starting on Saturday then he should replace Neilson on the left


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Pearson's a striker...not a left winger.


intercourse me it's hard work on here.
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Pearson's a striker...not a left winger.


intercourse me it's hard work on here.


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Some lads just don't know how lucky they are...I've heard he's quite high maintenance behind the scenes.
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Care to elaborate from that?


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Pearson's a striker...not a left winger.


intercourse me it's hard work on here.


Well put him in the middle then,

With Elding on the wing.


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