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I see its all kicking off yet again.
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The media representation of this conflict is as interesting as the conflict itself...
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I would have thought by now after decades of conflict in this area that the UN could have found a way for peace.
The unfortunate thing is that when you have extremists on one or both sides they won't compromise, which is probably why there is no peace. Then you have the political implications in both countries and the politics from other countries affecting the situation along with religion.
Finally, you have money. As with all wars, somebody is making a lot of money out of the supply of weapons etc. If all countries banned the supply of weapons, and materials to make weapons, to the Israeli's and Palestinians then the supply would dry up. Peace would eventually break out and proper decent meaningful negotiations could take place.
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Finally, you have money. As with all wars, somebody is making a lot of money out of the supply of weapons etc. If all countries banned the supply of weapons, and materials to make weapons, to the Israeli's and Palestinians then the supply would dry up. Peace would eventually break out and proper decent meaningful negotiations could take place.
I saw something yesterday with Boris Johnson tweeting the 'UK being deeply concerned by the growing violence and civilian casualties in Israel and Palestine' juxtaposed with a news story headlined 'British arms exports to Israel reach record level.' It's rather similar to the UK giving aid to Yemen whilst selling all sorts of weapons to Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen.
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Skillfully avoiding the fact that religion is the fundamental reason these people are fighting! Weird when you think they all represent the same god anyway.
My original words are:- 'Then you have the political implications in both countries and the politics from other countries affecting the situation along with religion.' This seems to upset you for some reason so I'll amend them:- Then you have religious implications, political implications in both countries, and politics from other countries affecting the situation. I have in no way have ever defended religion as a means to instigate any sort of violence, troubles, conflicts, or wars. In rewriting my words I have put religion first and in no way trying to hide the fact it plays in this or any conflict. I hope you are now happy with this wording.
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Sorry my bad, I missed your initial religion mention. I'll amend.
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Not sure religion is the fundamental reason. One of the major factors for sure, certainly entwined - put Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine long before the creation of the state of Israel, and I'd argue that a two-state solution that respected 1967 boundaries would enable peace. Its the continual infringement on Palestinian land through settlements and the backing of Israel as a geopolitical stronghold in the Middle East by US etc that has as much to answer for as religion does imo
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There’s an argument that even the 1967 boundaries represent a theft of Palestinian property in some areas. During the foundation of Israel many Palestinians were forced out of their homes to make way forward Jewish immigrants from Europe. That’s before you even begin to talk about the Occupied Territories and the more recent encroachments.
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There’s an argument that even the 1967 boundaries represent a theft of Palestinian property in some areas. During the foundation of Israel many Palestinians were forced out of their homes to make way forward Jewish immigrants from Europe. That’s before you even begin to talk about the Occupied Territories and the more recent encroachments.
For sure. I just genuinely think that when 1967 boundaries or even settlements just halted up till 2000 would go a huge way towards peace. Sure there might be the extreme faction still who would still want Israel wiped out but pretty sure I've seen research that suggests most Palestinians would accept a two state solution if settlement building stopped and Gaza was released from its mass imprisonment Also the treatment of Arab population within Israel is disgusting
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Sorry my bad, I missed your initial religion mention. I'll amend.
We all misread, not a problem. Peace
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