JMD

Joins Yeovil on loan

Crikey, Yeovil are going to be disappointed!

Especially as they think they are signing him permanently in January.

I reckon the fact that Hurst on the OS mentions just a loan period, whereas Yeovil say they have agreed terms to sign him in January probably indicates that Hurst has a replacement already lined up in January. I don't think we were planning to have Yeovil announce it was as good as a done deal until we had a new body in the building, so to speak...

Quoted from forza ivano

Joins York on loan

https://gtfc.co.uk/maguire-drew-join-yeovil-on-loan/

Disappointing for me, a good crosser of the ball and scores goals, apart from the odd game here and there I don't think our other wingers have been outstanding.

Decent player and should do well for them, I guess with the style and way he wants his wide players to play doesn't fit with the way he plays.

Great signing for them.

The same as mani, he’s thought of very fondly by the majority of the clubs support for the amazing play off campaign.

Good luck

Quoted from Maringer

Crikey, Yeovil are going to be disappointed!

Especially as they think they are signing him permanently in January.

Bloody predictive text! Noe edited

10 clubs by 25 years of age. It says a lot

Wish him all the best though

Should do well at that level I’m sure.

Thank you JMD for your goal that got us promoted, I hope you do well at Yeovil.

Quoted from Hagrid

10 clubs by 25 years of age. It says a lot

Wish him all the best though

3 Promotions by 25. It says a lot.

Of these 10 clubs, 5 were loans, 4 whilst he was at Brighton, so it doesn’t really say a great deal.

Quoted from ska face

3 Promotions by 25. It says a lot.

Of these 10 clubs, 5 were loans, 4 whilst he was at Brighton, so it doesn’t really say a great deal.

I think it does. He never stays anywhere. Lads talented no doubt, but you need more than talent

He's got plenty of talent but I'll put him in the Scott Nielsen bracket of talent alone is never enough . Still love him though

Talented but either not athletic enough or CBA. Don’t know which.

Quoted from Hagrid

I think it does. He never stays anywhere. Lads talented no doubt, but you need more than talent

Anelka did fairly well through moving about…

I think he’s been a bit hard done by in terms of opportunities to play this season. He’s a quality player for me, but obviously, my opinion is really flawed as I can’t comment on his attitude, character, fitness etc. I’ll always hold him in affection after his promotion contribution. Great signing for Yeovil.

A couple of vital moments he will be remembered for, but not fit enough or mobile enough to be a regular starter, hence often not a chosen choice.

Not quite powerful enough for the harsher rigours of Division 2.

Skilled, but not a "mucker in" as a part of a full team formation.

Frees off a wage for a better January signing, hopefully !

Quoted from acko338

A couple of vital moments he will be remembered for, but not fit enough or mobile enough to be a regular starter, hence often not a chosen choice.

Not quite powerful enough for the harsher rigours of Division 2.

Skilled, but not a "mucker in" as a part of a full team formation.

Frees off a wage for a better January signing, hopefully !

I think you could say the same about most of the so called wingers Hurst has signed.

Why play a lad with talent who can score and make goals when you can have a couple of “mucker ins” instead. Appreciate there’s a balance that has to be found just disappointing, given how few chances we create, that we lose a player capable of making them and scoring both spectacular and tap in goals.

Seems to be the way the modern game is but I personally will be sorry to see him go.

I quite like JMD and will always be grateful for the play off final goal but he was another player that quickly became better when he wasn't in the squad.
I wish him well.

Never properly fit, and never could be arsed to get fit.
Thanks for the goals and assists, you have earned your place in our history 👍

Quoted from coddy60

Never properly fit, and never could be arsed to get fit.
Thanks for the goals and assists, you have earned your place in our history 👍

There in lies the problem Coddy...Hurst has said on many occasions he needs to up his energy/fitness levels yet he were are sending him out loan...
Also let's not forget the cloud he came to us under, having his contract at Woking cancelled stating "mental issues" then 2 days ricks up at GTFC...
Will always be grateful for the goal that got us out the tinpot league but somewhere there's a problem with JMD.

Bit of an enigma.  Always seemed to make something happen but for whatever the reason he didn’t do what Hurst wanted! Shame it hasn’t worked out

Quoted from coddy60

Never properly fit, and never could be arsed to get fit.
Thanks for the goals and assists, you have earned your place in our history 👍

How can you say he couldn’t be arsed? You don’t know that for sure. It’s hard to get truly match fit if you’re not playing matches.

Would have been better if he had been born 50 years earlier and playing in the 1970’s

Not a case of fitness, he’s just physically slow and not mobile.

Disappointed that it’s come to this, as he’s either scored or assisted in most games that he plays, but Hurst wants wingers that track back, and JMD just doesn’t have the legs.

Good luck to the lad.

We have obviously got a skilful  goalscoring and creative winger in mind as a replacement, with a wand of a left foot, with a great set piece delivery who is as fit as a butchers dog. He will have the energy to get up and down and defend like a full back, and then produce match winning performances at the other end.

If he will accept average league 2 wages then the jobs a good 'un.

You saw on Saturday why he’s not playing. Kiernan chased back half the length of the pitch to make a great tackle in the right back position, something JMD is not capable of for whatever reason. That’s why Hurst plays him ahead of Drew.

Not all players can reach thr standard of fitness reguired to play league football
He has the skill but not the work rate to do that so he will play non league and be successful at that level.

I wish him well and hope he helps Chris Hargreaves keep his job

Quoted from grimsby pete

Not all players can reach thr standard of fitness reguired to play league football
He has the skill but not the work rate to do that so he will play non league and be successful at that level.

I wish him well and hope he helps Chris Hargreaves keep his job

Chris Hargreaves was sacked Pete, the wonderful Mark Cooper is in charge now.

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How can you say he couldn’t be arsed? You don’t know that for sure. It’s hard to get truly match fit if you’re not playing matches.
Surely you can see the difference  between a fit and naturally fast player and a technically gifted show pony, I like JMD, however, he is just not naturally fit or fast enough to make a difference in league 2. PH knows the score with fitness and pace, as he was an ever present and had a good turn of foot( similar to Our Macca). I wish him well but he does not offer enough going backwards.

Last goal in non-league and first goal in the EFL.  When he came on the pitch, I always felt we could score. Good luck to him.

He’s a funny one that’s for sure. He scored and set up some key goals for us last year but for whatever reason, it just hasn’t worked out for him.

He’ll forever be in towns folklore…

No doubt was a good impact player but always seemed to be blowing out of his backside after 10 mins , for me was one of them players that never looked fit enough to be a modern day winger , having said all of that i always fancied us to nick a goal or two when he was on the field good luck jmd

[quote=40]You saw on Saturday why he’s not playing. Kiernan chased back half the length of the pitch to make a great tackle in the right back position, something JMD is not capable of for whatever reason. That’s why Hurst plays him ahead of Drew.[

I noticed that on Saturday when Tranmere had that chance on the break at the near post it was Kiernan who got really close to their play so that he fluffed it.

JMD just looks like he's not an athlete as well as a footballer, these days you need to be both, what I would say though is if he's going down a league he's better than Yeovil. Also what's going on with the deal one minute he's signing permanently in January the next Town are denying it.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

There in lies the problem Coddy...Hurst has said on many occasions he needs to up his energy/fitness levels yet he were are sending him out loan...
Also let's not forget the cloud he came to us under, having his contract at Woking cancelled stating "mental issues" then 2 days ricks up at GTFC...
Will always be grateful for the goal that got us out the tinpot league but somewhere there's a problem with JMD.

I agree Northbank. I think his departure is mostly about his off field problems.given that hes been here over a year I think it's fair to surmise he hasn't been able to overcome his issues

Very skilful player but not athletic enough for modern day league football. Convinced PH reasoned we’d be in the conference this year when he signed him
Wish him well

He made vital contributions to the play off campaign. In the Notts County match both of our goals came from deliveries into the box by him. The equalizer was a particularly difficult ball to execute due to the position it was taken from: i.e. difficult to clear the first defender and still get it into the danger zone. Very well judged chip.

Of course his goal in the final will always be remembered, but it's worth noting how little time he was actually on the pitch in those two matches, and the impact he made.

He clearly doesn't fit in with Hurst's plans, but I really hope he does well at Yeoville. He was a key member of the squad that achieved Mission Impossible 2022.

All the best to him.  

  

Quoted from HertsGTFC

[quote=40]You saw on Saturday why he’s not playing. Kiernan chased back half the length of the pitch to make a great tackle in the right back position, something JMD is not capable of for whatever reason. That’s why Hurst plays him ahead of Drew.[

I noticed that on Saturday when Tranmere had that chance on the break at the near post it was Kiernan who got really close to their play so that he fluffed it.

JMD just looks like he's not an athlete as well as a footballer, these days you need to be both, what I would say though is if he's going down a league he's better than Yeovil. Also what's going on with the deal one minute he's signing permanently in January the next Town are denying it.

From the OS:

In light of the contradictory statements regarding Jordan Maguire-Drew joining Yeovil Town, we would like to reiterate that his deal is an initial one-month loan.

Although we can confirm that informal discussions regarding a permanent transfer have taken place between the two clubs, it is important to state that nothing has been formally agreed at this stage and Jordan remains under contract with GTFC.

We would like to wish Jordan well during his loan spell with the Glovers.

Yeovil shooting their load early?

Quoted from promotion plaice

Chris Hargreaves was sacked Pete, the wonderful Mark Cooper is in charge now.

He did not last long then  PP.
Who would be a manager ?
Instant success or the sack.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Chris Hargreaves was sacked Pete, the wonderful Mark Cooper is in charge now.

Unbelievable !!

How many games does a new manager get now days ?

Quoted from 137

From the OS:

In light of the contradictory statements regarding Jordan Maguire-Drew joining Yeovil Town, we would like to reiterate that his deal is an initial one-month loan.

Although we can confirm that informal discussions regarding a permanent transfer have taken place between the two clubs, it is important to state that nothing has been formally agreed at this stage and Jordan remains under contract with GTFC.

We would like to wish Jordan well during his loan spell with the Glovers.

Wouldn't be his first transfer under a bit of a cloud. He came here with a few accusations being slung by Woking.

Vital to our promotion, but in reality couldn't hold down a starting spot in the conference. Did the job we needed him to.

Wish him all the best.

Wish it could have worked out for him here as he has the talent and always looked like he could score goals. He needs to be playing games though and Hurst never really fancied him. Came in at a time we looked to sign some NL promotion winners to the team which worked for us in the playoffs because they knew what it takes and what to expect. I'm sure he can do well for Yeovil if he gets the games he needs as he's well proven with two promotions from NL.

An actual quality player who could deliver and pick out players with his crosses, passes. Good knack of scoring too.

Don't think we have enough of that in the squad so hopefully will be replaced by at least equal quality in the window.

JMD the only player who managed to score in the 4-1 penalty shoot out defeat.

He’s clearly not quite what Hurst wants. Of course he’ll always be remembered for all the right reasons but , in the back of my mind, is how he ended up with us in the first place.

Good luck to him, there’s a decent player in there, just probably not at league level.

Theirs quite a few players who seem to be top end non league but bottom end football league , Jordan just fits in there I’m afraid. Regardless of that his name like Nathan Arnold will forever be remembered fondly and still etched into GTFC history

Darryl Clare made a pretty good career for himself as a Conference specialist. Helped teams get promoted out of there a few times, I think?

Quoted from chrissy

He did not last long then  PP.
Who would be a manager ?
Instant success or the sack.

can't exactly remember the circumstances but pretty sure CH realised he'd made the wrong choice and wasn't happy. Think he resigned, which they refused, after only a couple of games. the writing was on the wall long before he left

Quoted from forza ivano

can't exactly remember the circumstances but pretty sure CH realised he'd made the wrong choice and wasn't happy. Think he resigned, which they refused, after only a couple of games. the writing was on the wall long before he left

Did not know that thanks.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He’s clearly not quite what Hurst wants. Of course he’ll always be remembered for all the right reasons but , in the back of my mind, is how he ended up with us in the first place.

Good luck to him, there’s a decent player in there, just probably not at league level.

Delivered for us when it mattered in non-League, scored our first goal back in the FL, thanks for that JMD. But not a 21st century FL player. He would probably have done ok in the 70s as a kind of QPR reserves type. Probably wouldn't have made the bubble gum card squad level though.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

How can you say he couldn’t be arsed? You don’t know that for sure. It’s hard to get truly match fit if you’re not playing matches.

I do though...

Quoted from coddy60

I do though...

By that comment I assume you’ve witnessed first hand his lack of effort?

I’d rather concede 5/6/7 more goals a season from JMD not tracking back, but trying to be attacking, than spend a lifetime watching Harry Clifton slice another cross out from the byline.

Quoted from coddy60

I do though...

Really ? I know someone in the inner circle of the club and he’s told me who the lazy trainers are and JMD name never came up

Quoted from ska face

I’d rather concede 5/6/7 more goals a season from JMD not tracking back, but trying to be attacking, than spend a lifetime watching Harry Clifton slice another cross out from the byline.

My kind of supporter 😀😀, game is about scoring goals and JMD makes a positive contribution in this area. Still an argument we’re not going to win so look forward to another athlete being signed as opposed to a footballer!

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Really ? I know someone in the inner circle of the club and he’s told me who the lazy trainers are and JMD name never came up

Who are the lazy trainers then? Do they play regularly?

Quoted from ska face

I’d rather concede 5/6/7 more goals a season from JMD not tracking back, but trying to be attacking, than spend a lifetime watching Harry Clifton slice another cross out from the byline.

I appreciate that JMD isn't going to start every match but his minutes this season vs some of the other forwards we have are a joke really. You're right in what you said earlier in the thread about how his time here should not just be reduced to his goal in the playoff final as he's made some great contributions. That headed equaliser at home to Halifax last season? Absolutely class header that I don't think a single other player in that squad or this one would have cushioned into the top corner. The guy has a lot of technical ability and it seems like we're throwing that away. He's not gonna bust a gut every match, we know that but he's good for a handful of starts and he is an infinitely better option off the bench than Pepple or Simmonds are. I'm expecting Scannell back and/or an exciting signing in a wide attacking position now.

Why do we need JMD when we haven’t got a 20 goal a season striker for him to fin with crosses into the box?

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Why play a lad with talent who can score and make goals when you can have a couple of “mucker ins” instead. Appreciate there’s a balance that has to be found just disappointing, given how few chances we create, that we lose a player capable of making them and scoring both spectacular and tap in goals.

Think that's harsh on Khan and Kiernan.

Im surprised it took so long to farm him out. All this palaver about whether its just for a month or going to be permanent, even though Town have said it is only a loan, I think Yeovil have put their cards on the table, and I reckon JMD will go to Yeovil in January, BUT not until PH gets somebody else in to cover his position. Fingers crossed Scans is back sooner rather than later, but my bet is that JMD has played his last game for us.

Hopefully Kiernan might sign permanently, but please please please send Simmonds (I had actually forgotten we still had him) and Pepple back in January. Pepple was only taken as part of the McAtee deal (I reckon PH had his eye on someone with a bit more experience) and Simmonds was obviously a last minute catch after PH other options went elsewhere.

The modern game has moved on to a place where hard running is at least as important as technical ability and I buy in to it as much as most but does it need to be?

The majority of us now see JMD as a good player but one who lacks the industriousness of a Clifton and so we see why he’s being moved on. But is JMD not just average at getting back and doing the dirty side? We see the best of the best being good at both, but we are division 4. We play 5 in midfield in one guise or another and then another 4 at the back, can we not get by with a JMD on the wing who more than makes up for his frailties with his attacking ability?

I think he has been good for Grimsby. He must be top for minutes per goal/assist. He is probably our second best technical player behind McAtee and a player who gets bums off seats when he gets on the ball. It’s a real shame he’s going IMO.

I think he's one of those players who always seemed to me to do a better job coming off the bench. Perhaps that's just because of my memories of the play-off matches, but there's no doubt that some players are better as 'super subs'. The problem is if they aren't as good when they start matches, then you're reliant on two players each game and you can lose a game before they get the chance to show what they can do.

Full-backs don't tend to get subbed unless injured so it certainly makes sense that some players achieve more when they've got fresh legs against a tiring opponent.

I reckon Hurst has already got somebody lined up as a replacement though whether this is another loan player or a permanent signing, I couldn't say. Hurst obviously likes Kiernan who tends to play on the right so it wouldn't surprise me if he was going to be joining permanently in January. If he's going to be first choice, JMD will certainly be wanting first team football somewhere. There would also need to be another player coming in as well if JMD leaves permanently, of course.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Why do we need JMD when we haven’t got a 20 goal a season striker for him to fin with crosses into the box?

Lol see this said often but how often have we ever had that ever? In recent history from the 80's probably Clive and then not until we were in the conference. That's just managing 20+ goals in one season we've never had one who did that or close to that over two or more seasons. Best was Omar who managed 19 two seasons in a row if you include cups for the promotion season and left us before the second season ended.

Quoted from Kris2

Lol see this said often but how often have we ever had that ever? In recent history from the 80's probably Clive and then not until we were in the conference. That's just managing 20+ goals in one season we've never had one who did that or close to that over two or more seasons. Best was Omar who managed 19 two seasons in a row if you include cups for the promotion season and left us before the second season ended.

You could put it that way, but apart from when we were in the conference, how often have we challenged at the top of leagues?

The Wembley double season had Donovan score about 20 and we had a really tight defence. Reddy and Jones seemed to score a decent amount. And then most other seasons we've been mid table at best.

Quoted from quebec38

The modern game has moved on to a place where hard running is at least as important as technical ability and I buy in to it as much as most but does it need to be?

The majority of us now see JMD as a good player but one who lacks the industriousness of a Clifton and so we see why he’s being moved on. But is JMD not just average at getting back and doing the dirty side? We see the best of the best being good at both, but we are division 4. We play 5 in midfield in one guise or another and then another 4 at the back, can we not get by with a JMD on the wing who more than makes up for his frailties with his attacking ability?

I think he has been good for Grimsby. He must be top for minutes per goal/assist. He is probably our second best technical player behind McAtee and a player who gets bums off seats when he gets on the ball. It’s a real shame he’s going IMO.

Clifton with JMD's technical ability would be a Championship player and vice versa with Clifton's energy and fitness given to JMD. The important factor is that JMD can do a lot more to address his weaknesses. Look at the impact shedding 8kg had on Mitrovic's mobility and work rate. He acknowledged that his fitness needed work and he has become twice the player.

Ruddock and that centre half that played for Fleetwood (grey hair, looked constantly shattered and was about 16 stone but a wonderful footballer) are 2 examples of players who coasted and could have got more out of their careers.

JMD will bounce about the National League having great moments here and there but will surely have regrets in 10 years time.

Quoted from smokey111

Clifton with JMD's technical ability would be a Championship and vice versa with Clifton's energy and fitness given to JMD. The important factor is that JMD can do a lot more to address his weaknesses. Look at the impact shedding 8kg had on Mitrovic's mobility and work rate. He acknowledged that his fitness needed work and he has become twice the player.

Ruddock and that centre half that played for Fleetwood (grey hair, looked constantly shattered and was about 16 stone but a wonderful footballer) are 2 examples of players who coasted and could have got more out of their careers.

JMD will bounce about the National League having great moments here and there but will surely have regrets in 10 years time.

Wildly overestimating JMD's technical ability. He's clearly got a decent level of ability for this level, but nowhere near championship quality. I didn't think he was even that good in most of the games he's played, but he obviously is remembered more positively for his contribution in the playoffs.

Quoted from pen penfras

Wildly overestimating JMD's technical ability. He's clearly got a decent level of ability for this level, but nowhere near championship quality. I didn't think he was even that good in most of the games he's played, but he obviously is remembered more positively for his contribution in the playoffs.

I don't think so. Looking at games in the championship I think a mix of JMD and Clifton would hold their own. I think of someone like Tommy Watson. He must have played 100 odd Championship equivalent games.

Have deleted a post that was totally out of order in the language used and also a post that quoted it. Please have a think before posting stuff like that.

He came in and did a good job in helping us get out of the National League so will always be remembered well, but to say he's technically good enough for championship is a big stretch.. Good luck to him at Yeovil

He never got a run of games, see you need a run of games to get match fit and he was never gonna get them.

Considering Hurst said he didnt want 11 dogs running around the pitch he seems to be wanting just that and it stiffles creativity.

He is far better than these young loans hurst seems to like You dont see them busting a gut to get back and defend like hurst orders. And they dont have a clue where the back of the net is either. Its a case of if your face dont fit , but you can get a game if you are cheap or almost free  Tin hat time from the usuall i guess .

Quoted from smokey111

I don't think so. Looking at games in the championship I think a mix of JMD and Clifton would hold their own. I think of someone like Tommy Watson. He must have played 100 odd Championship equivalent games.

I think you've massively undersold Tommy Watson there, a very good player who's biggest problem was the sheer quality of players ahead of him in both the positions he played in.

JMD lives in modern folklore for what he did during his relatively short spell with us, definitely the first half of his time.  But ultimately I don't think he is cut out for the Football League in a Paul Hurst side.  In the Conference we could, arguably, get away with his lower work-rate as it was offset by his obvious ability.  At this level there's less room for that.

I completely get the frustration that we're not doing enough in the final third and then letting go, having not really given a chance, someone who potentially has that little bit extra.  Not for one second is there a suggestion that we don't have a problem in that area of the pitch, I just don't think JMD is the answer and hope his departure paves the way for a real improvement.

I've got to admit that I never rated Tommy Watson, but as you mention, he was fighting for a place against some very good players. He was just a bit too slow for me as a wide player - not exactly flying down the wing like Gary Childs.

I just looked him up and didn't realise he'd made quite as many starts for us.  I was also surprised to see that he scored almost as many goals for us as Childs, who I always remember popping up with a few each season. I didn't remember that he apparently had to retire from full-time football due to injury, but that was a long while ago now.

Quoted from denni266

He is far better than these young loans hurst seems to like You dont see them busting a gut to get back and defend like hurst orders. And they dont have a clue where the back of the net is either. Its a case of if your face dont fit , but you can get a game if you are cheap or almost free  Tin hat time from the usuall i guess .

Usual cobblers from you.

Quoted from Maringer

I've got to admit that I never rated Tommy Watson, but as you mention, he was fighting for a place against some very good players. He was just a bit too slow for me as a wide player - not exactly flying down the wing like Gary Childs.

I just looked him up and didn't realise he'd made quite as many starts for us.  I was also surprised to see that he scored almost as many goals for us as Childs, who I always remember popping up with a few each season. I didn't remember that he apparently had to retire from full-time football due to injury, but that was a long while ago now.

Did he have a Dyer/Bowyer moment with Rees? Or, have I imagined that?

I remember him taking the urine when playing Saturday football against our team about 20 years ago. Was still a class above. Hard as nails as well.

Definitely not imagined it.  Him and Rees had a punch up on the pitch away at Darlington in the Van Sherpa trophy or something similar.

We were trendsetters - had two players getting themselves sent off for fighting each other long before those namby-pamby Premier League players.

See also Russell Slade's half-time team talk on the pitch when we were getting tonked one game which was aped by Phil Orange some years afterwards.

Quoted from chaos33

Usual cobblers from you.

No not cobblers at all . just the usuall from you  . as a few have said lately  you dont want to see anything you dont go with  . Just call people out  with insults . Must have a hard life at home i guess not getting your own way . Any way hows the lumbago  still making you grouchy ?  

Quoted from chaos33

Usual cobblers from you.

I'm  not sure it's complete cobblers.

If Simmonds, Pepple and JMD started every game in a season I'd bet heavy on JMD scoring more goals than the other two combined.

Quoted from denni266

He is far better than these young loans hurst seems to like You dont see them busting a gut to get back and defend like hurst orders. And they dont have a clue where the back of the net is either. Its a case of if your face dont fit , but you can get a game if you are cheap or almost free  Tin hat time from the usuall i guess .

JMD has been injured/getting back to fitness  for a decent chunk of the season and has only been available for selection for the last couple of games, what is Hurst supposed to do, play a crocked JMD over a young loan player?

Plus we only have Pepple and Simmonds now who'd fall into that category of young loan attacking players, and neither are wingers.

Reiterating what i referred to earlier, i really like JMD, but i think Khan and Kiernan have been decent of late and both offer more all round. I'd certainly like to keep JMD to have as a backup, but i doubt he wants to be a backup!

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

I'm  not sure it's complete cobblers.

If Simmonds, Pepple and JMD started every game in a season I'd bet heavy on JMD scoring more goals than the other two combined.

One is on his mid twenties the other 2 youngsters, silly comparison.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

One is on his mid twenties the other 2 youngsters, silly comparison.

Good point. JMD is averaging a goal every 4 games across his career, most of which at National League level. I’m not sure it’s his output that’s the problem, but more his attitude to perform week in, week out. He doesn’t seem to stay anywhere long enough.

Didn't JMD replace Sousa....who would you sooner have ?  Also, JMD actually was in the starting lineup in the last game he played but did so little he was taken off at halftime. That is a rarity in itself, barring injury, but Hurst was obviously not enthused by his lack of endeavor. As we all know, football is a team game with no room for malingers. As many have pointed out, his level is around the Conference, not the rough house 4th division, despite his obvious talents.

Quoted from denni266

No not cobblers at all . just the usuall from you  . as a few have said lately  you dont want to see anything you dont go with  . Just call people out  with insults . Must have a hard life at home i guess not getting your own way . Any way hows the lumbago  still making you grouchy ?  

Let’s put aside your utter lack of intelligence evident in your spelling and grammar ability…..but your post is full of passive aggressive tosh directed at Hurst, plus some implied criticism of some of our other young players from someone who evidently doesn’t know as much (if anything) about football as our management team. This is tethered to your evident and perpetual glee in having a dig at our players and management and their ability, judgement or application as you have been doing here for years, which infers a terribly lonely and miserable experience of supporting Town. All this is to say nothing of some rambling hogwash about lumbago, which I don’t understand, with some additional personal remarks about my life or personality, about which, you know nothing.

Nothing you’ve ever posted has been anything other than badly expressed, unduly critical, negative or miserable tripe. Stop bothering.

Quoted from chaos33

Let’s put aside your utter lack of intelligence evident in your spelling and grammar ability…..but your post is full of passive aggressive tosh directed at Hurst, plus some implied criticism of some of our other young players from someone who evidently doesn’t know as much (if anything) about football as our management team. This is tethered to your evident and perpetual glee in having a dig at our players and management and their ability, judgement or application as you have been doing here for years, which infers a terribly lonely and miserable experience of supporting Town. All this is to say nothing of some rambling hogwash about lumbago, which I don’t understand, with some additional personal remarks about my life or personality, about which, you know nothing.

Nothing you’ve ever posted has been anything other than badly expressed, unduly critical, negative or miserable tripe. Stop bothering.

Chaos, can I ask you a serious question, why do you feel you have to try to belittle every single poster on here?.
Denni offered an opinion, okay he's probably not had an Eton education and sometimes his messages are a bit jumbled, but to have a dig at his apparent illiteracy is bang out of order!..
DB was the number 1 for having spats but realised its the not the way "to win friends and influence people" and is now one of the best, positive and respected posters on this forum.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Chaos, can I ask you a serious question, why do you feel you have to try to belittle every single poster on here?.
Denni offered an opinion, okay he's probably not had an Eton education and sometimes his messages are a bit jumbled, but to have a dig at his apparent illiteracy is bang out of order!..
DB was the number 1 for having spats but realised its the not the way "to win friends and influence people" and is now one of the best, positive and respected posters on this forum.

Well said.

There’s a few on here who seem intent on using intimidation and bullying as a means to justify the sanctity of their opinions. The Fishy thrives on diversity of opinion. No one is always right, no one is always wrong, though, in some cases, you’d struggle to believe it.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Well said.

There’s a few on here who seem intent on using intimidation and bullying as a means to justify the sanctity of their opinions. The Fishy thrives on diversity of opinion. No one is always right, no one is always wrong, though, in some cases, you’d struggle to believe it.

Intimidation and bullying?! Are you real? Where?

Quoted from chaos33

Intimidation and bullying?! Are you real? Where?

I’m real.

Suggesting someone has a miserable experience is belittling, condescending and crass if it’s not intimidating and bullying.

His experience of supporting Town is demonstrably miserable from his forum posts. Every single one. Look back over them. All complaints and criticism, most of it passive aggressive, badly expressed and presented, and he topped off his response to me simply calling it ‘cobblers’  which, was, to use your word, ‘crassness’ itself), with some jibbering nonsense about lumbago and things ‘not being right at home’. Where does that leave your point now?

Bullying and intimidation! Utter nonsense, and you’ve backed the wrong horse. I’d leave it there if I were you.

Cmon Chaps its Christmas time!