JMD

Quoted from smokey111

Clifton with JMD's technical ability would be a Championship and vice versa with Clifton's energy and fitness given to JMD. The important factor is that JMD can do a lot more to address his weaknesses. Look at the impact shedding 8kg had on Mitrovic's mobility and work rate. He acknowledged that his fitness needed work and he has become twice the player.

Ruddock and that centre half that played for Fleetwood (grey hair, looked constantly shattered and was about 16 stone but a wonderful footballer) are 2 examples of players who coasted and could have got more out of their careers.

JMD will bounce about the National League having great moments here and there but will surely have regrets in 10 years time.

Wildly overestimating JMD's technical ability. He's clearly got a decent level of ability for this level, but nowhere near championship quality. I didn't think he was even that good in most of the games he's played, but he obviously is remembered more positively for his contribution in the playoffs.

Quoted from pen penfras

Wildly overestimating JMD's technical ability. He's clearly got a decent level of ability for this level, but nowhere near championship quality. I didn't think he was even that good in most of the games he's played, but he obviously is remembered more positively for his contribution in the playoffs.

I don't think so. Looking at games in the championship I think a mix of JMD and Clifton would hold their own. I think of someone like Tommy Watson. He must have played 100 odd Championship equivalent games.

Have deleted a post that was totally out of order in the language used and also a post that quoted it. Please have a think before posting stuff like that.

He came in and did a good job in helping us get out of the National League so will always be remembered well, but to say he's technically good enough for championship is a big stretch.. Good luck to him at Yeovil

He never got a run of games, see you need a run of games to get match fit and he was never gonna get them.

Considering Hurst said he didnt want 11 dogs running around the pitch he seems to be wanting just that and it stiffles creativity.

He is far better than these young loans hurst seems to like You dont see them busting a gut to get back and defend like hurst orders. And they dont have a clue where the back of the net is either. Its a case of if your face dont fit , but you can get a game if you are cheap or almost free  Tin hat time from the usuall i guess .

Quoted from smokey111

I don't think so. Looking at games in the championship I think a mix of JMD and Clifton would hold their own. I think of someone like Tommy Watson. He must have played 100 odd Championship equivalent games.

I think you've massively undersold Tommy Watson there, a very good player who's biggest problem was the sheer quality of players ahead of him in both the positions he played in.

JMD lives in modern folklore for what he did during his relatively short spell with us, definitely the first half of his time.  But ultimately I don't think he is cut out for the Football League in a Paul Hurst side.  In the Conference we could, arguably, get away with his lower work-rate as it was offset by his obvious ability.  At this level there's less room for that.

I completely get the frustration that we're not doing enough in the final third and then letting go, having not really given a chance, someone who potentially has that little bit extra.  Not for one second is there a suggestion that we don't have a problem in that area of the pitch, I just don't think JMD is the answer and hope his departure paves the way for a real improvement.

I've got to admit that I never rated Tommy Watson, but as you mention, he was fighting for a place against some very good players. He was just a bit too slow for me as a wide player - not exactly flying down the wing like Gary Childs.

I just looked him up and didn't realise he'd made quite as many starts for us.  I was also surprised to see that he scored almost as many goals for us as Childs, who I always remember popping up with a few each season. I didn't remember that he apparently had to retire from full-time football due to injury, but that was a long while ago now.

Quoted from denni266

He is far better than these young loans hurst seems to like You dont see them busting a gut to get back and defend like hurst orders. And they dont have a clue where the back of the net is either. Its a case of if your face dont fit , but you can get a game if you are cheap or almost free  Tin hat time from the usuall i guess .

Usual cobblers from you.

Quoted from Maringer

I've got to admit that I never rated Tommy Watson, but as you mention, he was fighting for a place against some very good players. He was just a bit too slow for me as a wide player - not exactly flying down the wing like Gary Childs.

I just looked him up and didn't realise he'd made quite as many starts for us.  I was also surprised to see that he scored almost as many goals for us as Childs, who I always remember popping up with a few each season. I didn't remember that he apparently had to retire from full-time football due to injury, but that was a long while ago now.

Did he have a Dyer/Bowyer moment with Rees? Or, have I imagined that?

I remember him taking the urine when playing Saturday football against our team about 20 years ago. Was still a class above. Hard as nails as well.