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GrimRob
September 9, 2022, 9:20am

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Would you rather have a monarch or an elected president as the head of state?

A hereditary monarch is what we have now.

An elected president would be (presumably) a senior politician, probably a former PM. But would be replaced/re-elected every few years rather than a job for life.


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Personally, an elected president seems much more logical. Imagine if Paul Hurst's son had to be our next manager, with nobody able to challenge it?

The Queen was a dedicated and capable monarch, but not everyone would even want to do the job or be able to do it anywhere near as well. Her uncle abdicated because he didn't fancy it (even before his marriage), it does seem unfair to just demand people do a particular job for their whole life.


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Elected President.

Get rid of the House of Lords for an elected upper house. Develop a full, written constitution. Introduce a proper PR voting system in both Houses of Parliament. Have increased devolution of power to all regions (not just the different countries of the UK).

Keep the Royals on for bits of pomp and circumstance and for foreigners to ogle. Remove some of their tax perks so they aren't treated differently to the rest of the landed gentry. They own vast swathes of the country already, so they'll manage to pay their way.
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It's not broken and worked well for over 1000 years. Both King Charles and the new Prince of Wales will modernise it and make it fit for the 21c.


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Thatched roofs. We've had them thousands of years and they work well. No need at all to change them for something better.
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Elected President.

Get rid of the House of Lords for an elected upper house. Develop a full, written constitution. Introduce a proper PR voting system in both Houses of Parliament. Have increased devolution of power to all regions (not just the different countries of the UK).

Keep the Royals on for bits of pomp and circumstance and for foreigners to ogle. Remove some of their tax perks so they aren't treated differently to the rest of the landed gentry. They own vast swathes of the country already, so they'll manage to pay their way.


This!


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It's not broken and worked well for over 1000 years. Both King Charles and the new Prince of Wales will modernise it and make it fit for the 21c.


You'll still be using a horse and cart then as opposed to a car?
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Just to add, the monarchy worked so well at one stage that we had a revolution (quite deliberately called the 'Civil War' after the restoration) and chopped off the King's head. If Cromwell had lived a bit longer, we might well have seen us remain a republic in the longer term, but they couldn't develop a stable government given the conditions of the time and it was him holding it all together.
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You'll still be using a horse and cart then as opposed to a car?


LOL  


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Privatise the monarchy. Massive corporations would throw millions at the chances of naming rights on Buckingham Palace, the Crown jewels etc. You could slap sponsors on their clothes, 'Visit Rwanda' on King Charles sleeve, the Amazon tick across Prince Wiliams chest. The Royal Family start paying for themselves and not the tax payer. Everybody wins 👍.


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