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Quoted from Civvy at last

You don’t have to stay on topic any more mate. It’s now in the non footy section.  👏 👏👏   In fact, by mentioning  footy related you are now off topic. FFS 😉

That's typical of me. A dollar short and a day late.

Quoted from Azimuth

Because Bliar and Brown changed the nation forever with social engineering, setting the ball rolling with uncontrolled immigration, attempting to destroy the union, leaving the nation bankrupt, illegal wars that have taken a generation to get over, trying to drag us deeper into the EU, changing laws to line Blairs wifes pockets, I could go on and on but we will be feeling the effects of the Blair Brown years forever.

Another one perpetuating the lie that Labour bankrupted the country. Had it not been for Brown's speedy intervention not only here but around the world during the banking crisis caused by completely out of control capitalism we could have been looking at what real bankruptcy looked like.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

One is proving to have taken it to new levels.

Also as if to prove my point Blair and Brown have now been in Govt for 12 years now so why are we still blaming them for the failings of the nation we have seen recently?

I wasn't specifically saying Blair and Brown were responsible for the current failings just pointing out that most Prime Ministers don't give a toss and will say and do anything to get voted in.

Having said that some suggest that Brexit is part of our problems but much of the vote for Brexit was based on people being drunk off with EU (specifically from Eastern Europe) immigration which was compounded by Tony Blair's decision to open the flood gates in 2004 when most of the other EU nations didn't open their borders until several years later, Germany and Austria not until 2011. His decision was clearly to hope that the majority would be low skilled low paid immigrants that would help to keep down wages in the rest of the UK.

Blair's decision also helped the rise of Nigel Farage and UKIP whose results in EU elections specifically led to David Cameron promising an EU referendum because he was shitting himself he would lose millions of votes to UKIP.

So you could say that Tony Blair's legacy is still current.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I wasn't specifically saying Blair and Brown were responsible for the current failings just pointing out that most Prime Ministers don't give a toss and will say and do anything to get voted in.

Having said that some suggest that Brexit is part of our problems but much of the vote for Brexit was based on people being drunk off with EU (specifically from Eastern Europe) immigration which was compounded by Tony Blair's decision to open the flood gates in 2004 when most of the other EU nations didn't open their borders until several years later, Germany and Austria not until 2011. His decision was clearly to hope that the majority would be low skilled low paid immigrants that would help to keep down wages in the rest of the UK.

Blair's decision also helped the rise of Nigel Farage and UKIP whose results in EU elections specifically led to David Cameron promising an EU referendum because he was shitting himself he would lose millions of votes to UKIP.

So you could say that Tony Blair's legacy is still current.

If we want to keep looking back then we’ll talk about Thatcher and her rampant desire for deregulation and privatisation.
For me around the point of immigration, it was needed and still is as we are struggling to fill roles with UK workers. Add to this our aging population, it makes sense to bring younger workers here. However it was done in such a way as those benefits were simply not explained and the flag shaggers have had a field day.
Above all this, we are in a position where national debt is spiraling out of control and was doing well before Covid. This debt is not benefitting the whole nation one little bit but those with the most are sat on the biggest gravy train ever and are being massively enabled by the most corrupt bunch of male masturbators we’ve ever had the misfortune to have in power. All the while being cheered on by 30 odd percent of the electorate who are either too thick, or selfish to care.

Quoted from barralad

Another one perpetuating the lie that Labour bankrupted the country. Had it not been for Brown's speedy intervention not only here but around the world during the banking crisis caused by completely out of control capitalism we could have been looking at what real bankruptcy looked like.

You could say it was the UK tax payers that saved us from real bankruptcy.

He also stole from UK pension savers by scrapping dividend tax credit and he was that thick he had no idea that scrapping the 10% lower income tax rate would double the tax liablilty of low paid workers. I was working in the financial side of my Company at that time listening to his budget and knew within 30 seconds that that would be the result, Brown was clueless.

And don't get me going about his "British jobs for British workers" or his downright lie about giving the UK a referendum on the  Lisbon Treaty.

Quoted from chaos33

NHS staff, who the government applauded on doorsteps every Thursday night during COVID were offered f@cking 1%!!! 1% as a ‘pay rise’! Another utter con and disgrace. A huge pay cut in a life and death job as a ‘reward’. The Tories got way with that one too. Inflation was what, in 2020/21? 3% maybe?

Workers/unions don’t demand anything. They ask. It’s a negotiation. Had it actually have even been true that unions demanded a 2k pay rise for staff in the NHS, it would have actually only meant a take home amount of about £20-£30 a week in their salary. What’s that…maybe 80p an hour?!?! And the price of everything has been rising way above that for some time. I do wish people would actually think more before posting utter twaddle.

The emails I have from Unison last year about a minimum £2k pay rise for everyone are made up then are they?

And did they find their ‘demands’ were met?

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

If we want to keep looking back then we’ll talk about Thatcher and her rampant desire for deregulation and privatisation.
For me around the point of immigration, it was needed and still is as we are struggling to fill roles with UK workers. Add to this our aging population, it makes sense to bring younger workers here. However it was done in such a way as those benefits were simply not explained and the flag shaggers have had a field day.
Above all this, we are in a position where national debt is spiraling out of control and was doing well before Covid. This debt is not benefitting the whole nation one little bit but those with the most are sat on the biggest gravy train ever and are being massively enabled by the most corrupt bunch of male masturbators we’ve ever had the misfortune to have in power. All the while being cheered on by 30 odd percent of the electorate who are either too thick, or selfish to care.

You don't get it do you. At no point were the British electorate asked if they wanted to accept millions of Eastern European migrants that flooded many northern Towns putting pressure on housing, schools and doctors surgeries etc.

That lying illegitimate Blair said just a few thousand would come in in the first year when tens of thousands landed.

The British people had their say in EU elections when Ukip drunk the main parties, and finally had their say in the EU referendum.

‘Millions of Eastern Europeans’? Is that right?
Has brexit sorted that then? Have they all been sent back?

Can you think of any other benefits of brexit?

Farage maths again I see.

Pressure on the system has come from years of austerity, trust me, I’ve seen it first hand in my profession.

Nobody actually did complain about the legitimate immigration from Eastern Europe until the euro sceptics and flag shaggers f exuded they wanted to be a bit more racist.

Taking jobs away from English people, jobs that English people didn’t want to do…or are we going to ignore the businesses exploiting migrant workers to save a few bob?

Anyway, privatised trains are shite, costly and unreliable. Getting to Kings Lynn on the train will be a challenge…