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April 6, 2022, 12:58pm

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I'm a union member in my line of work and I was balloted about striking for a better pay rise last year. I voted no not because I couldn't afford to strike but because, although my pay rise could be better, at least I've got a secure job.


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April 6, 2022, 1:03pm
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I'm a union member in my line of work and I was balloted about striking for a better pay rise last year. I voted no not because I couldn't afford to strike but because, although my pay rise could be better, at least I've got a secure job.

My pay rise did put me in a higher pension contribution bracket though which took virtually all of my pay rise! Hopefully, I live long enough to see the benefit of that.


I'm alright Jack, intercourse the rest of you.

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April 6, 2022, 1:05pm

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Actually that's an easy one for me to answer..... YES


The choice was Boris or Corbyn. Do you honestly believe Corbyn and Co would have handled Brexit, Covid and now the Ukrainian crisis any better? And don't reply with often quoted glib response "well it couldn't have been worse" because that is something you will never know. I voted Conservative , not because I am a Tory, which I am not, but because the prospect of Corbyn and the rest of his "fantasy world" dream team running the country filled me with dread for the future.


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April 6, 2022, 1:07pm

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I'm alright Jack, intercourse the rest of you.



Yeah. Fancy being allowed to have your own opinion and refusing be bullied by the Unions.   Should be hanged at the very least.  Next thing he’ll be telling us is that he spends his hard earned wages on his own family instead of others.  How very dare he. Scum of the earth


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I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
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That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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April 6, 2022, 1:18pm

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Who’s the bully here, the unions in giving their members a democratic vote, or the bosses in paying people well below what they deserve and, in many cases, need to live without relying on other tax payers to plug the gap?
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April 6, 2022, 1:23pm
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The choice was Boris or Corbyn. Do you honestly believe Corbyn and Co would have handled Brexit, Covid and now the Ukrainian crisis any better? And don't reply with often quoted glib response "well it couldn't have been worse" because that is something you will never know. I voted Conservative , not because I am a Tory, which I am not, but because the prospect of Corbyn and the rest of his "fantasy world" dream team running the country filled me with dread for the future.


I've never voted Tory in my life and I never will... that doesn't make me think that Labour had the answer to all the ills in our society ( if you accept there is such a thing as society )

Johson is just a self-interested shyster who for some reason seems to have a guru like status amongst his many followers.... he's disingenuous, deceitful and imho dangerous  but hey, he's a lad isn't he?

Jeremy on the other hand ..... well he wouldn't be my first choice as a Labour leader but at least he'd have been looking out for the whole of the British public rather than just close mates in his own party. What was it that was bandied around.... for the many and not for the money. I can't argue with that

As to whether or not it couldn't have been worse if Johnson hadn't got in.... as you say, we will never know but what we do know is for the past two years under Johnson and for the previous ten under the previous Tory leaders, it's indisputable that the country has gone backwards and is unlikely to ever improve without a change away from the selfservatives selling us down the river
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I voted Conservative , not because I am a Tory, which I am not

Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but that means that's exactly what you are.
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lmao I love it when you do these authoritative posts which are just utterly disprovable nonsense:

Tweet 1510495060571402241 will appear here...


Anyway, solidarity with all striking RMT members. If you're not happy about the disruption then blame the managers at the Train Operating Companies. It's entirely their fault workers are having to take industrial action.


We were talking about going south to places like Barnet & Eastleigh using the commuter network serving London weren’t we? Well I was based on the remaining fixtures. If you were planning on using TPE to get to Barnet I’d check your ticket.

TPE don’t have any exclusive routes serving and between big cities do they? So striking on a Tuesday would just mean travellers using another operator depending on their journey such as Northern, LNER, Avanti,  Cross Country etc… TPE staff don’t hold any real power to disrupt large numbers of commuters.

Even as far north as Grantham, Newark, Lincoln & Retford there are large numbers of commuters who travel down to London by train and the tactic by unions is always to target weekdays when those commuters are wanting to travel in and out of London. But unlike TPE, LNER have total exclusively on direct trains to and from London from all but one of the places I have mentioned.

If you have an interest in the all areas of the railway including industrial relations you should give Rail magazine a read. It’s very interesting. Their editor (Nigel Harris) tweets regularly and is always interesting. He can be found at @Rail




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I'm alright Jack, intercourse the rest of you.



Not at all. I just didn't think a strike would be productive and alternatives weren't being considered such as working to rule, not doing overtime etc.

I've worked in the private sector and my experience is that the only way to get a pay rise is by leaving for a new job so I'm sorry my opinion on industrial action in the public sector differs from yours.

When people are being made redundant elsewhere and haven't had a pay rise for many years dragging them closer and closer to the National Minimum Wage then I think it's a bit rich for public sector workers to demand pay rises in line with inflation.
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April 6, 2022, 1:52pm

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nice  to see the mods continue the non footy theme.
What are peoples opinions on Brexit and how do we feel  COVID and the Ukrainian crisis have affected it.
Do you think Labour would have done better ?  


So because I moderate on this board I’m not allowed an opinion?
And to answer your question I absolutely do think Labour or even my cat could do a better job than these lying, thieving gets. We are seeing the biggest transfer of wealth and subsequent inequality that we’ve seen for decades and it’s only the fault of the party of Government of the last 12 years and those that nod them through back into power.


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