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Rick12
August 22, 2021, 11:34am
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Therein lies the problem! "Better" for some bigoted groups is their version of reality and damn the outlook of anyone who disagrees. Not aimed at any particular religion or worldview, most have their own version of what they consider to be "best".
Yes well said Biccys.




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Bit beyond you is it?

To make it obvious for you, the point I’m making is that you don’t ditch allies. It comes back to bite you. If we’d been led by ignorant idiots like you in WWII we’d have lost.

I expect you’d have needn’t objecting to the use of new weapons too crying that they’re ‘experimental’ and might hurt you.


Moronic comparison,tge neutral Danes and Norwegians never had the balls to join us and declare war on Germany for a start!

Then you try to compare Europe under invasion from the German war machine to Afghanistan and the mountain men  are you having a laugh.

The other difference you fail to understand is that the vast majority of the people we took in shared our values and religions, and they also actually wanted to return home. Can you say that about the not so much genuine Afghan refugees but all the rats that will now follow? 20000 has been quoted you can bet this number will be 10x.

Here’s a question for you and I’ve asked a similar one to that other numpty before, if you was PM you had full power to let 100,000+ in and you was informed that as a consequence we would see from conservative modelling that at least 50 girls/women would be raped, 5-10 girls/women would be murdered within 5 years and the chance of another major bombing like in Manchester…. then would you still let them in over to you?
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Only country taking in refugees should be Biden’s! He caused this mess let him clean it up. Worst President in living memory this will be his legacy.
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Only country taking in refugees should be Biden’s! He caused this mess let him clean it up. Worst President in living memory this will be his legacy.


It is a mess as you say but it is the mess caused by Blair and Bush in 2001. They never thought that the might of the US Military accompanied by the British and other national forces could be beaten. Their vision of the 'end game' was we win. No thought was given to the fact all this might could be defeated and that the ordinary citizens of Afghanistan would be made to suffer again. Armed forces were killed for the benefit of the whims of politicians. No planned tactical withdrawal by the politicians of armed forces or Afgan allies; it's basically a rout.

Biden may be in charge now, along with Boris, but the problem was deep-rooted years ago with the arrogance and egos of others.


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Moronic comparison,tge neutral Danes and Norwegians never had the balls to join us and declare war on Germany for a start!

Then you try to compare Europe under invasion from the German war machine to Afghanistan and the mountain men  are you having a laugh.

The other difference you fail to understand is that the vast majority of the people we took in shared our values and religions, and they also actually wanted to return home. Can you say that about the not so much genuine Afghan refugees but all the rats that will now follow? 20000 has been quoted you can bet this number will be 10x.

Here’s a question for you and I’ve asked a similar one to that other numpty before, if you was PM you had full power to let 100,000+ in and you was informed that as a consequence we would see from conservative modelling that at least 50 girls/women would be raped, 5-10 girls/women would be murdered within 5 years and the chance of another major bombing like in Manchester…. then would you still let them in over to you?


Wasn’t the Manchester bomber born in England? Same as Lee Rigby’s killers? And all four 7/7 bombers.
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Moronic comparison,tge neutral Danes and Norwegians never had the balls to join us and declare war on Germany for a start!

Then you try to compare Europe under invasion from the German war machine to Afghanistan and the mountain men  are you having a laugh.

The other difference you fail to understand is that the vast majority of the people we took in shared our values and religions, and they also actually wanted to return home. Can you say that about the not so much genuine Afghan refugees but all the rats that will now follow? 20000 has been quoted you can bet this number will be 10x.

Here’s a question for you and I’ve asked a similar one to that other numpty before, if you was PM you had full power to let 100,000+ in and you was informed that as a consequence we would see from conservative modelling that at least 50 girls/women would be raped, 5-10 girls/women would be murdered within 5 years and the chance of another major bombing like in Manchester…. then would you still let them in over to you?


Rats that will follow.

You couldn't be any more xenophobic if you tried.


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Quoted from Humbercod


Moronic comparison,tge neutral Danes and Norwegians never had the balls to join us and declare war on Germany for a start!

Then you try to compare Europe under invasion from the German war machine to Afghanistan and the mountain men  are you having a laugh.

The other difference you fail to understand is that the vast majority of the people we took in shared our values and religions, and they also actually wanted to return home. Can you say that about the not so much genuine Afghan refugees but all the rats that will now follow? 20000 has been quoted you can bet this number will be 10x.

Here’s a question for you and I’ve asked a similar one to that other numpty before, if you was PM you had full power to let 100,000+ in and you was informed that as a consequence we would see from conservative modelling that at least 50 girls/women would be raped, 5-10 girls/women would be murdered within 5 years and the chance of another major bombing like in Manchester…. then would you still let them in over to you?


You still flipping miss the point don’t you?!

200 years ago people like you were saying the same things about the Irish. Different culture. Different religion. Uncivilised. Blah blah blah. But they were flipping wrong too.

Let’s face it. You just don't love your country do you. You’d rather see us lose face by letting down people on our side. Throwing them to the dogs. So the next time we have fewer people who will help us. We know you won’t take one for the team either. You totally lack moral fibre. All about the self. Not a patriotic bone in your body. Just a snowflake who has no conception of real world power politics.


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And you have the gall to say the Norwegians and Danes didn’t have balls! What a flipping plonker know nothing you are.

I know for a fact that were people from those countries living in our town who did more than a coward like you (who is afraid of a vaccine) ever would dream of doing against the Nazis.


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So why would Denmark and Norway declare war on Germany anyway? Before the invasions of April 9th. Talk us through that one Hombocod. How would that have arisen? Don’t tell me, you know fack all about the subject. That would be a surprise [sarcasm alert for the hard of thinking].


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It is a mess as you say but it is the mess caused by Blair and Bush in 2001. They never thought that the might of the US Military accompanied by the British and other national forces could be beaten. Their vision of the 'end game' was we win. No thought was given to the fact all this might could be defeated and that the ordinary citizens of Afghanistan would be made to suffer again. Armed forces were killed for the benefit of the whims of politicians. No planned tactical withdrawal by the politicians of armed forces or Afgan allies; it's basically a rout.

Biden may be in charge now, along with Boris, but the problem was deep-rooted years ago with the arrogance and egos of others.


Correct about Blair and Bush but what people overlook is the fact we wasn’t beaten! The USA had practically conquered Afghanistan and the Taliban what was left were hiding away in the mountains. The Taliban are now back in power because Biden of Biden’s stupidity Not because the were beaten, I actually agree with Blair when he says we should of seen the job through.
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