Afghanistan

Quoted from Humbercod

we just don’t know who we are letting in.

Why don’t you?

Do you think resettlement schemes just pop everyone on a plane one end and then shoo them off at the other, never to be seen again?

You make a good case for closing all borders to absolutely everyone though - nobody in or out of the country at all, just everyone stuck on crab mentality island watching Mrs Browns boys until death.

Horrendous scenes around & inside the airport.
An absolute disaster.

Quoted from Stadium

Horrendous scenes around & inside the airport.
An absolute disaster.

What got me was seeing pictures in the newspaper of people falling out of planes to their death desperate to get out the country . Turns out one of them was only 19 and an Afghan youth footballer. Mind boggles how hard life is and desperate for some people around the world.

Quoted from Humbercod

Any awful opinions on this -
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s.....arrested-London.html

Is it awful to worry about thieves,rapists,murderers, or good old fashioned terrorist because we just don’t know who we are letting in.

Messed up world Humbercod . Always has been . Hopefully we see a time  where and I haven't given up hope yet  that everyone gets on regardless of political affiliation or religion  and there's fairness amongst humans. Not just with each other but also how we treat this planet and not rape the earth  for financial gain and Iive in harmony with it.

Quoted from Rick12

Messed up world Humbercod . Always has been . Hopefully we see a time  where and I haven't given up hope yet  that everyone gets on regardless of political affiliation or religion  and there's fairness amongst humans. Not just with each other but also how we treat this planet and not rape the earth  for financial gain and Iive in harmony with it.

Amen to that.

Thousands of illegals coming in every week…erm…you can’t actually prove that, the clue is in the title…I mean perhaps we should start with the scumbags taking everything from these folk on the promise of a passage to a safe haven, not a flipping rubber dingy across the sea…

intercourse me, what are the racists and bigots really scared of? If we’re advocating the stopping of refugees in to a country because we’re worried about rape and murder then we best set up the gulags because you’re gonna be shocked when you find out that that already happens…

Back to the actual discussion and not the bigoted ramblings which result in calling anyone with a heart or a different view a lefty divvy or whatever…

I see there’s now a suggestion the Afghan sect of Isis is now likely to attack…I mean this would clearly indicate that Covid is done…the west have their priorities on the Middle East again…is there money to be made, are the yanks trying to take back control of the drug trade again? Is there now more millions to be made in the sale of weapons than PPE and the likes.

Just get the poor illegitimates out of there, let the flipping lunatics and scumbags masquerading as relgious nut jobs  eat themselves…very sad to think that less than 50 years ago, may be 60, Afghanistan was a progress country…

Afghanistan was making progress in the 70s. Until the religious nutters tried to stop it. Then the Soviets went in to support the regime (and for their own geo-political reasons no doubt) and that gave the West the chance to strike at the USSR by backing what became the Taliban (and spawn Al Qaeda).

Blair makes some sound comments in here:

https://amp.theguardian.com/wo.....l-eligible-evacuated

Quoted from Humbercod

Would be slightly funny if there was any kind of logic to your warped mentality.

Bit beyond you is it?

To make it obvious for you, the point I’m making is that you don’t ditch allies. It comes back to bite you. If we’d been led by ignorant idiots like you in WWII we’d have lost.

I expect you’d have needn’t objecting to the use of new weapons too crying that they’re ‘experimental’ and might hurt you.

Quoted from aldi_01

Just get the poor illegitimates out of there, let the flipping lunatics and scumbags masquerading as relgious nut jobs  eat themselves…very sad to think that less than 50 years ago, may be 60, Afghanistan was a progress country…

Nice sentiments Aldi but as human beings were all fallen creatures.  Evil in all its various guises be it bullying,racism, bigotry, mocking etc is present in all of  us however minuscule eg 0.0001%. Purity doesn't exist in the human consciousness.This is relevant for the great theological thinkers in our human history ranging from Jesus of Nazareth to Guru Nanak the founder of the Sikh faith who were beacons of hope in a fallen world.  Key is to want to change for the  better and make the effort to do that. If everyone done that on a global level you wouldn't see these humanitarian problems . Likewise on a local level a lot of problems would be eradicated as well.

Quoted from Rick12

Nice sentiments Aldi but as human beings were all fallen creatures.  Evil in all its various guises be it bullying,racism, bigotry, mocking etc is present in all of  us however minuscule eg 0.0001%.Purity doesn't exist in the human consciousness This is relevant for the great theological thinkers in our human history ranging from Jesus of Nazareth to Guru Nanak the founder of the Sikh faith who were beacons of hope in a fallen world.  Key is to want to change for the  better and make the effort to do that. If everyone done that on a global level you wouldn't see these humanitarian problems . Likewise on a local level a lot of problems would be eradicated as well.

Therein lies the problem! "Better" for some bigoted groups is their version of reality and damn the outlook of anyone who disagrees. Not aimed at any particular religion or worldview, most have their own version of what they consider to be "best".