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But then you have to examine the reasons why and look at many factors. The key problem is that the media and politicians distil crime caused by black people into a message that says 'black people are criminals and killers, they are a threat to our society' (it's actually much clearer in the treatment of Muslims who are all branded as terrorists in some quarters).
And it's patent nonsense, of course not all black people commit crime and not all Muslims support terrorism. Just as all white people are not all saints.
But if there is a higher rate of crime in any clearly identifiable group we have to ask why that is and deal with the cause.
You forgot all whites aren't Racist oppressors but you would never think that the way they are portrayed by the woke media and the left wing elite.
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November 12, 2020, 11:16am |
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Appreciate the input but let's not brand words like racism about to some users in previous posts who are slightly aggrieved at someone loosing their job for using the word coloured . As noted before we were all initally coloured once. I'am actually as well as being a bit Latin also a bit Arab due to my mum (my dad being English).If someone was to call me coloured in the right context and yes I do have some pigmentation in my skin tone and not from a mocking or sarcastic ,negative stance I wouldn't be in the slightest offended. Like if Arabs have to wear the headscarfs to protect their coloured skin from the harsh rays of the sun.
I sense certain previous posters are decent people and no way would I brand some of their comments as a veil for their racism to hide behind. I think you saying that denotes an aspect of your personna you can work on. Don't judge others without knowing them fully or it just puts you in a negative light.
We all have good and bad in us . Let's all just try to choose the good path which is the strongest and in the long run always beats the bad and try to work on ourselves for the better and help each other out rather than sending out negative vibes which irritate and annoy .
Up the mariners.
Thank for taking time to read and comment. I'm sorry but I believe there is veiled racism. Until we accept there is still racism we will never change things. It is and always will be my opinion that calling a black person coloured is racist no ifs or buts it's plain racist. If that's part of my persona I'm happy with it I'm not an apologist for racists or their racist comments.
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November 12, 2020, 11:25am |
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You forgot all whites aren't Racist oppressors but you would never think that the way they are portrayed by the woke media and the left wing elite.
I also didn't mention that not "all whites" are sh*t scared of a rebalancing of society, recognising their own racism (conscious or unconscious) and welcoming the fact that it's possible that people who don't look like me or talk like me have something positive to give to Britain.
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November 12, 2020, 11:31am |
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If one of the main aspects of my job was to give the impression of advancing the interests of marginalised groups, I would just avoid using potentially inappropriate language during a Select Committee hearing. Quite simple really.
If I didn’t want to lose my job over it, I also would not have resigned. Again, very simple concept.
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November 12, 2020, 11:39am |
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If one of the main aspects of my job was to give the impression of advancing the interests of marginalised groups, I would just avoid using potentially inappropriate language during a Select Committee hearing. Quite simple really.
If I didn’t want to lose my job over it, I also would not have resigned. Again, very simple concept.
Interesting that you use the words "give the impression". Some are suggesting that the FA is full of fine words but actions are a bit thin on the ground. He couldn't even get the fine words correct.
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November 12, 2020, 11:52am |
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Interesting that you use the words "give the impression". Some are suggesting that the FA is full of fine words but actions are a bit thin on the ground. He couldn't even get the fine words correct.
Yes I think it’s exactly that. We all know what these men in suits on hundreds of thousands of pounds a year are there for, and it’s to apply a veneer of concern or respectability depending on the issue, make a hand-wringing statement every few months and ensure that no real change is affected. Unfortunately, the role also comes with the knowledge that you will be on the chopping block if you allow that mask to slip, which is what has happened here.
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November 12, 2020, 12:08pm |
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Yes I think it’s exactly that. We all know what these men in suits on hundreds of thousands of pounds a year are there for, and it’s to apply a veneer of concern or respectability depending on the issue, make a hand-wringing statement every few months and ensure that no real change is affected. Unfortunately, the role also comes with the knowledge that you will be on the chopping block if you allow that mask to slip, which is what has happened here.
Nail on head!
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Yes I think it’s exactly that. We all know what these men in suits on hundreds of thousands of pounds a year are there for, and it’s to apply a veneer of concern or respectability depending on the issue, make a hand-wringing statement every few months and ensure that no real change is affected. Unfortunately, the role also comes with the knowledge that you will be on the chopping block if you allow that mask to slip, which is what has happened here.
We know what the job is and we know what this incumbent is like. There never was a good match there and in truth he should have realised that himself long before this happened. The job is as much political as sporting these days and you need experience in soft pedal and pussyfooting with some connections in the right places often beyond football. But the top echelons of football have been filled by tradition with football people who simply do not have that experience. I wonder how people like Arthur Drewery and FA Would would fare in those FIFA and FA committee rooms nowadays.
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November 12, 2020, 12:49pm |
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In any sane world what is offensive about what he said? I say again he was supporting ethnic minority players. Isn't that enough for you? Does he really have to conform to the current vocabulary or else you can put him down as not caring, or racist or anything else you might like to label him?
One day perhaps you will use the "incorrect" term; perhaps when you get a bit older and your mind is not as agile as it once was. In years to come you might use BAME as the correct term only for some frothing at the mouth lefty to berate you 'cos we used that term years ago. Would you think of yourself as racist, or uncaring because you used the wrong word?
I don't know anything about Greg Clarke. He might be the most wonderful person imaginable. He might do a lot of charity work and he may have done more to include minorities in the sport, but nothing matters because he used the wrong word. Its pathetic.
Look pal. I’m not young. I’m 57. Age is no excuse. Now if you care to address what I actually said we might have a meaningful debate, but you completely missed the point.
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November 12, 2020, 12:59pm |
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PS if I use the incorrect term any time, or say something offensive I expect to have that pointed out*. I would hope I have the good sense to learn and move on, not act like a big toddler screaming “it’s not fair. Cant do what I want!”
* and I have made mistakes and I do try to learn.
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