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BLM Read there own mission statement. Look at the leaders of BLM they are self proclaimed Marxist revolutionise.
Just look at any propaganda film from 1936ish and you will recognise the simplicity in tactics between antifa and the brown shirts. Violence, intimidation and if you don't give into there doctrine and demands then you are fair game. Will you denounce antifa????
Antifa is not a single organisation, it does not have leaders and it certainly does not have a mission statement. It is a loose association of different people and groups with a broad focus on opposing right wing actions. The only individuals who can be identified as leaders are people who organise localised demonstrations. It is left leaning because it is inherently anti right wing. It has attracted some anarchist elements because anti fascist demonstrations tend to be anti-government. Please be more specific about "any propaganda film". Do you mean from Nazi Germany? If you mean British propaganda films from c 1936 you will struggle to find any of them that demonstrate tactics like antifa because they were still focussed on supporting the Empire and promoting the idea that Britain was a civilising influence in the world. The rise of Nazism was not seen as a threat to Britain by the UK government in 1936. It was 2 years before Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler over Czechoslovakia. Nazi propaganda at the time did not show any violence either, it tended to focus on the racial superiority of the German 'master race' and the achievements of the Nazi government - an example from c1936 (actually 1935) is Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will which is a beautifully shot epic highlighting the rise of Nazism and Hitler at the 1934 Nuremburg rally. Propaganda films have historically shied away from showing violence because it has turned off the majority of people the propaganda is aimed at. ISIS and Islamic State propaganda has bucked this trend in recent years. The easiest place to find calls to violence re antifa has been from American right wing leaders and groups who have openly called for violent reaction to antifa demonstrations. This has been seen very clearly in the tweets of Donald Trump and other Republican leaders and online messages from right leaning groups. You haven't supplied 3rd party evidence to support the claims you made in your earlier post. Please also post a link to antifa's website where I can look at their 'mission statement' and who their leaders are.
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Sir Matt Tease |
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Have you read the thread?
Aren't you due back at school after the half term ?
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Aren't you due back at school after the half term ?
I'm a 41 year old father of 3. Great line though.
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Antifa is not a single organisation, it does not have leaders and it certainly does not have a mission statement. It is a loose association of different people and groups with a broad focus on opposing right wing actions. The only individuals who can be identified as leaders are people who organise localised demonstrations. It is left leaning because it is inherently anti right wing. It has attracted some anarchist elements because anti fascist demonstrations tend to be anti-government.
Please be more specific about "any propaganda film". Do you mean from Nazi Germany? If you mean British propaganda films from c 1936 you will struggle to find any of them that demonstrate tactics like antifa because they were still focussed on supporting the Empire and promoting the idea that Britain was a civilising influence in the world. The rise of Nazism was not seen as a threat to Britain by the UK government in 1936. It was 2 years before Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler over Czechoslovakia.
Nazi propaganda at the time did not show any violence either, it tended to focus on the racial superiority of the German 'master race' and the achievements of the Nazi government - an example from c1936 (actually 1935) is Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will which is a beautifully shot epic highlighting the rise of Nazism and Hitler at the 1934 Nuremburg rally.
Propaganda films have historically shied away from showing violence because it has turned off the majority of people the propaganda is aimed at. ISIS and Islamic State propaganda has bucked this trend in recent years.
The easiest place to find calls to violence re antifa has been from American right wing leaders and groups who have openly called for violent reaction to antifa demonstrations. This has been seen very clearly in the tweets of Donald Trump and other Republican leaders and online messages from right leaning groups.
You haven't supplied 3rd party evidence to support the claims you made in your earlier post.
Please also post a link to antifa's website where I can look at their 'mission statement' and who their leaders are.
Where did I say antif had a mission statement or recognised leaders??? Like all you left wing ding bats just carry on blerting excrement to suit your agenda. Antifa is a group of violent thugs. Why don't you denounce them and there violence????
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Antifa is not a single organisation, it does not have leaders and it certainly does not have a mission statement. It is a loose association of different people and groups with a broad focus on opposing right wing actions. The only individuals who can be identified as leaders are people who organise localised demonstrations. It is left leaning because it is inherently anti right wing. It has attracted some anarchist elements because anti fascist demonstrations tend to be anti-government.
Please be more specific about "any propaganda film". Do you mean from Nazi Germany? If you mean British propaganda films from c 1936 you will struggle to find any of them that demonstrate tactics like antifa because they were still focussed on supporting the Empire and promoting the idea that Britain was a civilising influence in the world. The rise of Nazism was not seen as a threat to Britain by the UK government in 1936. It was 2 years before Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler over Czechoslovakia.
Nazi propaganda at the time did not show any violence either, it tended to focus on the racial superiority of the German 'master race' and the achievements of the Nazi government - an example from c1936 (actually 1935) is Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will which is a beautifully shot epic highlighting the rise of Nazism and Hitler at the 1934 Nuremburg rally.
Propaganda films have historically shied away from showing violence because it has turned off the majority of people the propaganda is aimed at. ISIS and Islamic State propaganda has bucked this trend in recent years.
The easiest place to find calls to violence re antifa has been from American right wing leaders and groups who have openly called for violent reaction to antifa demonstrations. This has been seen very clearly in the tweets of Donald Trump and other Republican leaders and online messages from right leaning groups.
You haven't supplied 3rd party evidence to support the claims you made in your earlier post.
Please also post a link to antifa's website where I can look at their 'mission statement' and who their leaders are.
You may want to read this from my post BLMRead there own mission statement. Look at the leaders of BLM they are self proclaimed Marxist revolutionise. Why won't you denounce antifa violence???
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BobbyCummingsTackle |
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You may want to read this from my post BLM Read there own mission statement. Look at the leaders of BLM they are self proclaimed Marxist revolutionise.
Why won't you denounce antifa violence???
Yes, you're right. I have mixed up BLM and antifa. I apologise.
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November 11, 2020, 6:08pm |
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Where did I say antif had a mission statement or recognised leaders??? Like all you left wing ding bats just carry on blerting excrement to suit your agenda.
Antifa is a group of violent thugs. Why don't you denounce them and there violence????
"Like all you left wing dingbats just carry on blerting (sic) excrement to suit your agenda". Everything I've written is fact that can be easily researched, you are giving us the 'benefit' of your opinion. I'd suggest you stop reading certain newspapers and taking your mate's opinions on Facebook as fact. Again, you still haven't substantiated any claims you have made. Here's the BLM website to help you: https://blacklivesmatter.com/Give me a shout if you need any help with the big words.
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November 11, 2020, 6:11pm |
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Not aiming this at anyone but as a town of dockers and factory workers should we not be slightly left wing?
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Last week: The FA and Football League needs reforming and the dinosaurs running it replacing.
This week: Not that kind of reform and Greg Clarke has been victimized by the loony left, that poor, poor man.
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So is Tony Woodley a previous leader of the Unite trade union, a left winger, he had twice refused to accept a peerage but had now decided to accept one and become Baron Woodley.That great Labour politician from across the Humber John Prescott accepted his peerage, funny how socialists, Marxists or whatever left wing agenda they follow can nearly all be bought with a gong eventually.
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