Shrews

Things can`t be all that bad on the home front if all we can talk about is Shrewsbury

Hurst has done well at Shrewsbury fair play to him.

Despite that, I'd not be putting a single penny on them winning the league given his track record of decent starts followed by dropping players, form dips, re-address in January, make shite signings then limp over the line. Repeat until you manage to do it.

To be in this position with a side previously in relegation trouble is actually an achievement though.

Quoted from Brazilnut

and wasn't Hurst

Scott and Hurst so still partly to blame.

People forget that we progressed each year under Hurst. We had a bigger budget than most Conference clubs but that doesn't automatically guarantee you success, as the oursleves, Luton and Tranmere have found out. What he did give us was stability, something the club hadn't had for at least ten years beforehand.

He seems to be doing the same at Shrewsbury. They were releagtion fodder when he took over, and he kept them up. This season they're doing better so Hurst is doing what Hurst is good at. Fairly limited budget - in comparison to some of the other clubs in the division - plus fairly limited income from home games, but he's doing the business.

Some folk will be carping about his attitude to fans and his pragmatism when he's in charge of a semi decent Championship side whilst also hoping that he may bring them to BP for a semi decent pre season friendly.

Thanks for everything Paul, but we do move on, and hopefully another three points on Saturday to give our fans something to focus on, and hope for.

People also forget that Monkhouse got injured otherwise he'd of continued to play him and we most likely wouldn't of got promoted! Anyways, who cares about Hurst now...........UTM

Quoted from arryarryarry

Erm, like I said they didn't have JF & co on the board and Neil Woods as manager.

And as for success in recent years, if PH is that good why did it take him so long to get us promoted.

That is, quite frankly, a ridiculous argument. And it doesn't change the facts at all. As much as it pains me to say it, right now and for the last 8 or so years, they have been a more successful team than us. It's fact. Yes, if we had a different chairman, and employed a different manager 8/9 years ago, there is a possibility that could have been different....also, if we were actually formed in Manchester all those years ago, decided to wear red and called ourselves Manchester United first, things could've turned out differently too.

The fact that the conference is an incredibly hard league to get out of and has been for most clubs has been touched on a lot here. Obviously you don't want to factor that in so there's no point bringing it up again.

Quoted from oochiad

People also forget that Monkhouse got injured otherwise he'd of continued to play him and we most likely wouldn't of got promoted! Anyways, who cares about Hurst now...........UTM

......but we did manage to stay in the playoffs all season with him in the team in the first place.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Sounds like you might have.

Let's just say I was being kind to PH and crediting his (and RS') team with an extra goal.

Hurst has been promoted at every club he's been at. The football we played was far from exciting, but it's got him to the position he's in now with Shrewsbury. I've said it previously, but he's a perfect fit for a team that isn't one of the favourites. His style prevents conceding too many with the chance of nicking wins. At a team were the fans aren't full of expectations, his style would be welcomed. In many ways, he could have done a good job for us still.

Quoted from sam gy

That is, quite frankly, a ridiculous argument. And it doesn't change the facts at all. As much as it pains me to say it, right now and for the last 8 or so years, they have been a more successful team than us. It's fact. Yes, if we had a different chairman, and employed a different manager 8/9 years ago, there is a possibility that could have been different....also, if we were actually formed in Manchester all those years ago, decided to wear red and called ourselves Manchester United first, things could've turned out differently too.

The fact that the conference is an incredibly hard league to get out of and has been for most clubs has been touched on a lot here. Obviously you don't want to factor that in so there's no point bringing it up again.

Why is it ridiculous, we were dumped out of the Football League because the board gave the job of keeping us in the league to a man who clearly had no idea how to manage an adult football team (and that comes from a couple of players who he tried to manage), and even after his disastrous run without a win failed to sack him. A simple decision that could have saved the past 6 years of pain and if they had sacked him we could well be in the same league as Shrewsbury, and whatthefuck that has to do with Manchester, I have no idea.